Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Kerrigan has not missed a game, that puts him ahead of Trent in my book, if I have to pick one.

Kerrigan is good. He isn't elite and never has been.

Trent is a freak. Strength, speed, size, agility. He can do things no other tackle can do.

Kerrigan is durable and really good but Schneed is right on, he isn't close to Trent.

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[mooby]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Kerrigan is good. He isn't elite and never has been.

Trent is a freak. Strength, speed, size, agility. He can do things no other tackle can do.

Kerrigan is durable and really good but Schneed is right on, he isn't close to Trent.

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The funny thing about this post is that guy, who fans aside from yourself think is only "good" has a legit chance at becoming the Redskins all-time sack leader this upcoming season. If that's how we're setting the bar I can't wait until we get one of those elite pass rushers.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by mooby

The funny thing about this post is that guy, who fans aside from yourself think is only "good" has a legit chance at becoming the Redskins all-time sack leader this upcoming season. If that's how we're setting the bar I can't wait until we get one of those elite pass rushers.

Great point.

Trent is just on a different level. He is the 1 % of the 1%.

Being elite is a really simple test. Does he scare the other teams coordinator enough to force them to gameplan for the player?

Offensive coordinators have never had to game plan around kerrigan despite his numbers and reliability.

You can list the players in the league now and over the last few years who offenses have had to game plan around.

And yes, his durability, willingness to play through pain and injury are great.

He just isn't elite, and that's ok. He is really good on the field, really steady, and a great Redskin.



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[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by mooby

The funny thing about this post is that guy, who fans aside from yourself think is only "good" has a legit chance at becoming the Redskins all-time sack leader this upcoming season. If that's how we're setting the bar I can't wait until we get one of those elite pass rushers.

Exactly and I saw that since 2013 only Von Miller has more sacks than Ryan in the NFL and that was by a half sack. Ryan just doesn't have the flashy name or the flashy play I guess, but the man is durable and gets the job done. Is he Donald or Mack or Miller? No, but his numbers speak for themselves.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Exactly and I saw that since 2013 only Von Miller has more sacks than Ryan in the NFL and that was by a half sack. Ryan just doesn't have the flashy name or the flashy play I guess, but the man is durable and gets the job done. Is he Donald or Mack or Miller? No, but his numbers speak for themselves.

+1. He's not Von Miller, but then again very few players are. Above average is good enough for me. If he went out for the year and god forbid Ryan Anderson had to take his place, we would all be bitching about the drop-off in talent.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Kerrigan is good. He isn't elite and never has been.

Trent is a freak. Strength, speed, size, agility. He can do things no other tackle can do.

Kerrigan is durable and really good but Schneed is right on, he isn't close to Trent.

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4 time Pro Bowler, double digit sacks, never misses a game, yet for some odd reason Ryan Kerrigan doesn't get his deserved respect around here. Trent being a freak does no good when he is spending 4 games a year in street clothes. Now it also seems from what has been coming out his attitude went downhill when Geron Christian was drafted and a lot of the medical issue is on him. Sounds like the relationship is beyond repair.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

4 time Pro Bowler, double digit sacks, never misses a game, yet for some odd reason Ryan Kerrigan doesn't get his deserved respect around here. Trent being a freak does no good when he is spending 4 games a year in street clothes. Now it also seems from what has been coming out his attitude went downhill when Geron Christian was drafted and a lot of the medical issue is on him. Sounds like the relationship is beyond repair.

How was that post disrespectful?

The lack of game planning by OC's for Kerrigan isn't a unique opinion at all.

In fact, it's a widely held opinion by Cooley and other analysts.

Teams game plan for Von Miller. Teams don't game plan for Ryan Kerrigan.

Let's define our terms. Elite meaning best of the best.

Do you believe Ryan Kerrigan is an elite edge player?




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[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

How was that post disrespectful?

The lack of game planning by OC's for Kerrigan isn't a unique opinion at all.

In fact, it's a widely held opinion by Cooley and other analysts.

Teams game plan for Von Miller. Teams don't game plan for Ryan Kerrigan.

Let's define our terms. Elite meaning best of the best.

Do you believe Ryan Kerrigan is an elite edge player?




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I would never compare Kerrigan to Miller, Miller is a slam dunk first ballot Hall of Famer. I place Kerrigan as having a huge impact on the success of the Redskins, others around here don't seem to feel that way. I am judging him on the impact he has on the Redskins, not how he compares to a future Hall of Famer. Under how most define elite he is not, but if elite is an A+ grade he is at least a B+ in my book. It seems like many around here would have no trouble trading the guy, I would not.