trump Inpeachment...............

[Chico23231]

He lives in your head. Must suck

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

He lives in your head. Must suck

Must be nice to conveniently ignore the fact the President tried to extort a foreign country in order to get dirt on his rivals.

Also Bob this is the last time I'm going to talk about the racist angle. I'm pretty sure I already clarified to say not all Republicans are racist, but all white-supremacist/neo-Nazi's/alt-right are.

If you have any rebuttal where you can find a single white-supremacy/neo-Nazi/alt-right group publicly stating they disagree with Trump's platform I'm all ears. If not don't waste your time.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Must be nice to conveniently ignore the fact the President tried to extort a foreign country in order to get dirt on his rivals.

Also Bob this is the last time I'm going to talk about the racist angle. I'm pretty sure I already clarified to say not all Republicans are racist, but all white-supremacist/neo-Nazi's/alt-right are.

If you have any rebuttal where you can find a single white-supremacy/neo-Nazi/alt-right group publicly stating they disagree with Trump's platform I'm all ears. If not don't waste your time.

So yeah a fringe, isolated minority of population who are nazi, supremacist voted for trump. I would say most did. I def think these types that live out west, up north and upper Midwest would probably vote for democratic candidates in regional politics because of lack gop support overall in those areas.

But this topic came up this past week when Ben Shapiro spoke at Stanford. If you watch from 12 min mark to 25...Ben addresses this fringe alt right who try to capture a conservative narrative, replace it with their version which isn’t gop beliefs. What the left and media does is take the fringe racists beliefs and then apply it to the president, all his supporters and the entire GOP party...here is Ben talking about the strategy of this fringe group and destroying them in the process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge_RUxBTHN4

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So yeah a fringe, isolated minority of population who are nazi, supremacist voted for trump.

.......yeah a fringe trump supports.


you must have forgotten this.....................


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally


The Unite the Right rally[4] was a white supremacist[5][6][7][8] rally that occurred in Charlottesville, Virginia, from August 11 to 12, 2017.[9][10] Protesters were members of the far-right and included self-identified members of the alt-right,[11] neo-Confederates,[12] neo-fascists,[13] white nationalists,[14] neo-Nazis,[15] Klansmen,[16] Blue Lives Matter,[17] and various right-wing militias.[18] The marchers chanted racist and antisemitic slogans, carried semi-automatic rifles, Nazi and neo-Nazi symbols (such as the swastika, Odal rune, Black Sun, and Iron Cross), the Valknut, Confederate battle flags, Deus Vult crosses, flags and other symbols of various past and present anti-Muslim and antisemitic groups.[8][9][19][20][21][22][23] Within the Charlottesville area, the rally is often known as A12[24] or 8/12.[25] The organizers' stated goals included unifying the American white nationalist movement[11] and opposing the removal of the statue of Robert E. Lee from Charlottesville's Lee Park.[22][26]

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Giantone

.......yeah a fring trump supports.


you must have forgotten this.....................


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally


The Unite the Right rally[4] was a white supremacist[5][6][7][8] rally that occurred in Charlottesville, Virginia, from August 11 to 12, 2017.[9][10] Protesters were members of the far-right and included self-identified members of the alt-right,[11] neo-Confederates,[12] neo-fascists,[13] white nationalists,[14] neo-Nazis,[15] Klansmen,[16] Blue Lives Matter,[17] and various right-wing militias.[18] The marchers chanted racist and antisemitic slogans, carried semi-automatic rifles, Nazi and neo-Nazi symbols (such as the swastika, Odal rune, Black Sun, and Iron Cross), the Valknut, Confederate battle flags, Deus Vult crosses, flags and other symbols of various past and present anti-Muslim and antisemitic groups.[8][9][19][20][21][22][23] Within the Charlottesville area, the rally is often known as A12[24] or 8/12.[25] The organizers' stated goals included unifying the American white nationalist movement[11] and opposing the removal of the statue of Robert E. Lee from Charlottesville's Lee Park.[22][26]

They are a very small percentage of the population yet the left focuses on them like they are huge problem when it comes to violent crimes. For every act of violence they commit how many people are killed by gang bangers that are mostly minorities?

I have a feeling if the antifa or whatever they are would stop engaging these people and the media would not give them air time their numbers would dwindle. These public rallies that turn violent when the counter protestors show up end up as nothing but free advertising for these nut jobs.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

They are a very small percentage of the population yet the left focuses on them like they are huge problem when it comes to violent crimes. For every act of violence they commit how many people are killed by gang bangers that are mostly minorities?

I have a feeling if the antifa or whatever they are would stop engaging these people and the media would not give them air time their numbers would dwindle. These public rallies that turn violent when the counter protestors show up end up as nothing but free advertising for these nut jobs.

.................and if the President would you know, denounce them...............that could help?

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

They are a very small percentage of the population yet the left focuses on them like they are huge problem when it comes to violent crimes. For every act of violence they commit how many people are killed by gang bangers that are mostly minorities?

I have a feeling if the antifa or whatever they are would stop engaging these people and the media would not give them air time their numbers would dwindle. These public rallies that turn violent when the counter protestors show up end up as nothing but free advertising for these nut jobs.

Originally Posted by Giantone

.................and if the President would you know, denounce them...............that could help?

Pretty pathetic these days, politicians are very careful not to come down hard on potential votes, no matter where they may come from. Of course the left will have a selective memory when it came to how Obama dealt with situations like the looting and riots in Ferguson. Interesting how the left loves to point the finger at the trash that votes for Republicans while seeming to ignore the trash that votes for Democrats. Wastes of human life vote for all parties, neither one has the market cornered on "deplorable" voters.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So yeah a fringe, isolated minority of population who are nazi, supremacist voted for trump. I would say most did. I def think these types that live out west, up north and upper Midwest would probably vote for democratic candidates in regional politics because of lack gop support overall in those areas.

But this topic came up this past week when Ben Shapiro spoke at Stanford. If you watch from 12 min mark to 25...Ben addresses this fringe alt right who try to capture a conservative narrative, replace it with their version which isn’t gop beliefs. What the left and media does is take the fringe racists beliefs and then apply it to the president, all his supporters and the entire GOP party...here is Ben talking about the strategy of this fringe group and destroying them in the process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge_RUxBTHN4

We don't need to take the fringe alt right beliefs and apply it to the President. When he says there's fine people on both sides, when one side is anti-fascist and the other side is racist white people, he's clearly saying he doesn't have a problem with their beliefs. When he says Mexico is sending rapists and criminals, ignoring the fact a ton of these illegal immigrants are families trying to run from the violence, he's railing against the community as a whole. When he says Muslims need to be banned from entering America, he's implying all Muslims are terrorists instead of the small sect of them (just like racist white people) that actually are.

I get it Chico. Racists, extremists, alt-right, extreme-left (or whatever you wanna call them) are a small percentage of a population, or religion. They are often the loudest, yet they are far outnumbered by actual normal people trying to live their lives. The thing that kills me is you and Bob are getting personally offended by the implication those white-supremacists are pro-Republican. I give you videos of neo-Nazi's chanting Jews will not replace us, and Trump saying they are fine people, and yet you don't want to make the connection. You're helpless.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

We don't need to take the fringe alt right beliefs and apply it to the President. When he says there's fine people on both sides, when one side is anti-fascist and the other side is racist white people, he's clearly saying he doesn't have a problem with their beliefs. When he says Mexico is sending rapists and criminals, ignoring the fact a ton of these illegal immigrants are families trying to run from the violence, he's railing against the community as a whole. When he says Muslims need to be banned from entering America, he's implying all Muslims are terrorists instead of the small sect of them (just like racist white people) that actually are.

I get it Chico. Racists, extremists, alt-right, extreme-left (or whatever you wanna call them) are a small percentage of a population, or religion. They are often the loudest, yet they are far outnumbered by actual normal people trying to live their lives. The thing that kills me is you and Bob are getting personally offended by the implication those white-supremacists are pro-Republican. I give you videos of neo-Nazi's chanting Jews will not replace us, and Trump saying they are fine people, and yet you don't want to make the connection. You're helpless.

Yes people are generally offended when you call them racist or somehow imply conservatives give safe cover to that thinking or ideology. That’s exactly what started this convo. I’m offended when trump said the rapists comment about the illegals...that was terrible. He should have specified the facts, something like 75% of the women traveling illegally across the border are sexually assault/ raped in route by people guiding them or traveling with...sick fucking people, huh?

I suggest watching the vid, Ben lays it out fairly well. And no trump never said neo nazis chanting replace us or whatever vile thing...were fine people. The entire verbatim transcript of the trump interview from that day which gives u that sound bite is over at politafact I believe. He disavowed the alt right numerous times there...and criticizing the violent radicals on both sides.

And again, when the Democrats in the previous administration implemented same policies to stop illegal immigration and chose to safeguard the country with a travel ban....no one said a thing.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by mooby

Also Bob this is the last time I'm going to talk about the racist angle. I'm pretty sure I already clarified to say not all Republicans are racist, but all white-supremacist/neo-Nazi's/alt-right are.

Racists in denial only want to classify violent crimes against minorities as acts of racism. They completely discredit racial discrimination as racism while it hurts minority communities far more than a few Nazis playing dressup.



Racial discrimination is racism.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

He lives in your head. Must suck

WOW , you can't defend trump any more .Admit defeat.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

WOW , you can't defend trump any more .Admit defeat.

Lol...g1 you’re the best.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Lol...g1 you’re the best.

..........hell of a retort.Not your usually snappy comeback ,wonder why?

[Giantone]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/chris-...resident-trump

From FOX News no less...............


After acting U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine William Taylor testified publicly in the impeachment inquiry on Wednesday, Fox News’ Chris Wallace told “The Daily Briefing with Dana Perino” that Taylor's performance was “impressive” and “very damaging to the president.”

“He went out of his way to talk about what he knew, what he was specifically testament to," Wallace said. "The only thing he talked about was a strong feeling that it was in the U.S. national security interest to support Ukraine in the fight against Russia. But he certainly wasn’t taking any partisan position.”

Taylor testified that a staff member recently told him that they overheard a phone conversation between President Trump and Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland during which the president asked about “the investigations.”

Wallace also said that Taylor was “very non-political.”

Taylor, who was appearing in the first public hearing of the House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment inquiry, said some of his staff were at a restaurant in Ukraine with Sondland when Sondland made a phone call to Trump. The staffer told Taylor they could hear Trump on the phone asking about “the investigations,”

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

He lives in your head. Must suck

LOL.................,speaking of SUCKING!


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...inity_20191114




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