Coaching and Front Office Changes

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I am glad to believe that we will finally be seeing the case of the best player gets to start, and not the guy with the biggest contract. For all we know Haskins might not beat out another QB in camp. But at the end of the day, the best player will have the job.

Well Gruden didn't start Haskins, he played "the best QB" . Problem with that is it didn't allow for ceiling as well as current. And Guice was probably the better running back between AP and him(at this point in their respective careers) but injury risk wasn't factored in by Gruden.

My point is that it isn't just best player, it is the best 46 active players that function as 1 team. I hope Rivera is a strong enough leader to propel these guys forward in that singular direction.

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[MTK]

@RapSheet

#Panthers OC Scott Turner is interviewing with new #Redskins coach Ron Rivera today for the vacant OC job, source said. Incumbent Kevin O’Connell is considered the favorite, but Turner, whose work impressed this year, could potentially end up as his QB coach if he’s not the OC.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This reminds me of all the Twitter people that try to break news first. Where is your link?

I made my post based on internet articles on Riggo’s Rag and NBC Sports in the day of O’’Connell’s first interview. I think some of the sports writers assumed that because O’Connell was interviewed by Rivera and was still in the team that he had the OC job (all but five coaches had been fired).

Later reports put O’Connell’s status more in the air as I think Rivera wants to make sure everyone fights and applies themselves for their individual position. For example, Rivera specifically mentioned Haskins in the press conference and you would think that he would be a shoe-in because he was our #1 pick in the 2019 draft and had played in seven games - getting better every game ( the last two games were excellent). Yet, Rivera said that even Haskins might have veteran QB competition in training camp.

The message is clear: no one’s job is a lock or immune from scrutiny, with competition and challenges at every position.

O’Connell may have a lot of fan support , but the Redskin’s offense was last in the NFL in both rushing and passing in 2019. Rivera must be certain that KOC is the right man for a job as critical as the OC.


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[BigHairedAristocrat]

I definitely like that O'Connell isn't just being handed the job. He's been touted as a bright up and coming offensive mind, but what, exactly, has he actually done? He's called plays for what, 13 games this year? And its not like our offense was on fire, either.

For the sake of continuity, I have no problem with keeping him on in some capacity, even as OC, but we definitely need some experienced coaches on the offense.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I definitely like that O'Connell isn't just being handed the job. He's been touted as a bright up and coming offensive mind, but what, exactly, has he actually done? He's called plays for what, 13 games this year? And its not like our offense was on fire, either.

For the sake of continuity, I have no problem with keeping him on in some capacity, even as OC, but we definitely need some experienced coaches on the offense.

He developed Haskins quickly, Callahan had the handcuffs on him and finally
Removed them in the last 3-4 games. I don’t want to lose another talented coach like we have many times already and thriving with other teams.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He developed Haskins quickly, Callahan had the handcuffs on him and finally
Removed them in the last 3-4 games. I don’t want to lose another talented coach like we have many times already and thriving with other teams.

Have some perspective. No one is banging on the door trying to get Kevin O'Connell to be their offensive coordinator.

O'Connell has less than a year of experience calling plays on a 3-13 team whose offense ranked 31st in the league.

He may have potential as a bright young, up and coming offensive mind, but he's done nothing this league to be handed anything.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Have some perspective. No one is banging on the door trying to get Kevin O'Connell to be their offensive coordinator.

O'Connell has less than a year of experience calling plays on a 3-13 team whose offense ranked 31st in the league.

He may have potential as a bright young, up and coming offensive mind, but he's done nothing this league to be handed anything.

It's been reported KOC is widely respected in the league, even from his playing days backing up Brady in NE.

Anybody who thinks he wouldn't be able to find another offensive coordinator job is delusional. Matt Lafleur landed a HC gig based off 2 years of OC experience with the Rams and Titans. The majority of NFL teams would love a young up-and-coming offensive coordinator.

All those media reports that talk about the respect KOC has, do you think they wrote those without talking to people outside the Redskins org. about KOC?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Have some perspective. No one is banging on the door trying to get Kevin O'Connell to be their offensive coordinator.

O'Connell has less than a year of experience calling plays on a 3-13 team whose offense ranked 31st in the league.

He may have potential as a bright young, up and coming offensive mind, but he's done nothing this league to be handed anything.

And how do you know no one is interested in KOC? I guarantee you many teams are interested in him, they know he’s under contract.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

It's been reported KOC is widely respected in the league, even from his playing days backing up Brady in NE.

Anybody who thinks he wouldn't be able to find another offensive coordinator job is delusional. Matt Lafleur landed a HC gig based off 2 years of OC experience with the Rams and Titans. The majority of NFL teams would love a young up-and-coming offensive coordinator.

All those media reports that talk about the respect KOC has, do you think they wrote those without talking to people outside the Redskins org. about KOC?

Well, I believe Scott Turner, as Norv Turner's son, may get some of the same type accolades, we just don't here them. He did take a rookie qb in Carolina and do pretty good. So the question becomes who does Rivera jive with better. That is where Rivera having final say over his staff, and actually doing honest evaluations is so important. It will also be a test of Haskins growth as an NFL player if he changes his offseason habits to match Rivera's hard nosed approach.

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[mredskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Have some perspective. No one is banging on the door trying to get Kevin O'Connell to be their offensive coordinator.

O'Connell has less than a year of experience calling plays on a 3-13 team whose offense ranked 31st in the league.

He may have potential as a bright young, up and coming offensive mind, but he's done nothing this league to be handed anything.

Correct!

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Well, I believe Scott Turner, as Norv Turner's son, may get some of the same type accolades, we just don't here them. He did take a rookie qb in Carolina and do pretty good. So the question becomes who does Rivera jive with better. That is where Rivera having final say over his staff, and actually doing honest evaluations is so important. It will also be a test of Haskins growth as an NFL player if he changes his offseason habits to match Rivera's hard nosed approach.

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Will Scott have trust in Snyder who fired his dad? Is there any resentment there? Maybe KOC OC Scott QB coach as being floated.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Will Scott have trust in Snyder who fired his dad? Is there any resentment there? Maybe KOC OC Scott QB coach as being floated.

There are really 2 questions

1) would Norv tell Scott to wait for another option.

2) If you are KOC, and the Rivera brings his old OC in to be your QB coach do you feel comfortable that a back channel from QB coach to HC won't develop if friction occurs.

Bottomline, Rivera has to have the full control to bring in, or keep, the guy that will be right for the team he is building. I am looking forward to hearing how the staff is built.

[Chico23231]

Riverboat is doing the right thing not handing the job over to O'Connell...that woulda been a "Bruce"-like demand. Let Ron take his time and assemble the staff the way he wants, I have a feeling both KOC and Scott Turner could be on staff

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Riverboat is doing the right thing not handing the job over to O'Connell...that woulda been a "Bruce"-like demand. Let Ron take his time and assemble the staff the way he wants, I have a feeling both KOC and Scott Turner could be on staff

+1

I only want KOC if Rivera wants him. But acting like KOC hasn't done jack or is a no-name is completely ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

I also welcome Scott Turner if Rivera wants him too. I want Rivera to have a staff that is fully on board with his plan.

[SFREDSKIN]

Good new article by JP regarding KOC

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...ers-son-report