Trump Accomplishments

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Are we equating accomplishments to keeping promises to his base? I guess you could say he's done or at least attempted to that. We're not really talking about actual "success" for the country vs. his party. The jobs thing is what most people tout, but that's been proven to be cyclical regardless of what party is in office, so I'm not thanking him for that.

Kind of like W., I'm left feeling like this: my day-to-day life really hasn't changed that much. When I turn on the TV, I absolutely despise (this is regardless of which station I flip through) what he has turned the country into. And that's on HIM. Going way back to my earliest memories, I can't remember a single president doing that. We all hate each other more than ever, and I haven't seen enough "success" to think having such a fucking moron in office is worth it. But hey, as long as the base is happy!

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Are we equating accomplishments to keeping promises to his base? I guess you could say he's done or at least attempted to that. We're not really talking about actual "success" for the country vs. his party. The jobs thing is what most people tout, but that's been proven to be cyclical regardless of what party is in office, so I'm not thanking him for that.

Kind of like W., I'm left feeling like this: my day-to-day life really hasn't changed that much. When I turn on the TV, I absolutely despise (this is regardless of which station I flip through) what he has turned the country into. And that's on HIM. Going way back to my earliest memories, I can't remember a single president doing that. We all hate each other more than ever, and I haven't seen enough "success" to think having such a fucking moron in office is worth it. But hey, as long as the base is happy!

I think it's a combination of both. I even said in my initial post that not everyone would agree on what are actual accomplishments. But we've seen some good results and good results are good for everyone.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nat...ncreasing/amp/

It's not just solid unemployment numbers they are amazing unemployment numbers that don't happen every cycle. The stock market is going great. Incomes are rising. He has negotiated some trade deals including one recently signed this past week.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I think it's a combination of both. I even said in my initial post that not everyone would agree on what are actual accomplishments. But we've seen some good results and good results are good for everyone.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nat...ncreasing/amp/

It's not just solid unemployment numbers they are amazing unemployment numbers that don't happen every cycle. The stock market is going great. Incomes are rising. He has negotiated some trade deals including one recently signed this past week.

I think at the best I'm indifferent because I still don't think you can solely thank him or blame him for things like the economy. I'm in "wait and see" mode for the trade deals...

For me, and I'm not going to act like I'm a bleeding heart environmentalist but I DO care and he has totally bent over the environment and said, "Bite the pillow, I'm going in raw."

I say all this, but honestly, I truly don't believe he's smart enough to do all this shit on his own. I feel like he has some handlers feeding him all this, because he certainly wasn't thinking about it when all he had was a show and a catch-phrase.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I think at the best I'm indifferent because I still don't think you can solely thank him or blame him for things like the economy. I'm in "wait and see" mode for the trade deals...

For me, and I'm not going to act like I'm a bleeding heart environmentalist but I DO care and he has totally bent over the environment and said, "Bite the pillow, I'm going in raw."

I say all this, but honestly, I truly don't believe he's smart enough to do all this shit on his own. I feel like he has some handlers feeding him all this, because he certainly wasn't thinking about it when all he had was a show and a catch-phrase.

The president is similar to a QB. Often gets too much credit and too much blame. I don't think he's single handedly responsible either. But he's the president so if things happen under his watch, whether good or bad, it's on his record.