trump Inpeachment...............

[mooby]

One final question before I'm done with this forever. This applies to anyone willing to speak in Trump's defense.

Do you believe the President has authority to do anything he wants?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

One final question before I'm done with this forever. This applies to anyone willing to speak in Trump's defense.

Do you believe the President has authority to do anything he wants?

Of course not, and the argument by Derschowitz was poorly made, and then twisted to sound crazy.

The fact is that political gain is part of nearly every calculus. Pelosi bringing the Impeachment was a political calculus, as was fast forwarding the impeachment process to the Senate to make the Republicans the ones who didn't want witnesses.

But, when Pres Obama says I have a pen and a phone, and Dems get outraged by Republicans who took offense( like me) suddenly get offended by a President saying I have the authority to do what I want under Article 2. Well it's pot meet kettle time.

I believe that the House should have done it right, and if bribery, or other offenses were proved not by hearsay, or NYT leaks, but by testimony and documents, which obviously the court would have said turn over, then Trump should have resigned. If the Dems keep the House in 2020, I fully expect a rehash of all of this, but this time doing it right. At that point the voter choice argument is gone, and they have 4 more years to truly prove their case.

One last thing, IF the House had gotten the Courts to say turn over the [whatever] and after all appeals were exhausted and failed and Trump refused, that would be obstruction with cause for impeachment and removal.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

One final question before I'm done with this forever. This applies to anyone willing to speak in Trump's defense.

Do you believe the President has authority to do anything he wants?

Mooby, his presidency has been the ultimate reminder the office CANNOT do everything it wants. He wants the interest rates reduced...he cant, he wants funding for a wall, he cant...he tries to yank press pass away, he cant...etc. I had zero clue just how many folks listen in on his phone calls to foreign leaders...that was eye opening.

The checks in the government, the law and the constitution really damper the trump is a dictator talk. Its simply not factual.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

One final question before I'm done with this forever. This applies to anyone willing to speak in Trump's defense.

Do you believe the President has authority to do anything he wants?

https://apnews.com/article/0a6f2a348...5e1dc486027860

I said no in this thread before because the first set of impeachment articles were bogus politics.

Inciting riots is something that the President does not have authority to do. Count me as in favor of these articles of impeachment. ( still not the first set)

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

https://apnews.com/article/0a6f2a348...5e1dc486027860

I said no in this thread before because the first set of impeachment articles were bogus politics.

Inciting riots is something that the President does not have authority to do. Count me as in favor of these articles of impeachment. ( still not the first set)

It might have been a riot to some of the supporters, but you can bet there were insurrections and domestic terrorists in that crowd as well that absolutely would've seized the opportunity to take captives or do worse if the chambers weren't cleared in time. Which is why I have no sympathy for those who did participate.

With that being said I will agree to disagree with you on the first impeachment, but thank you for clarifying your opinion on the second. It's a moot point anyways and I don't think it's going to go anywhere before or after he leaves office, but I respect any conservative willing to stand up to the radicals and say what he did is an impeachable offense.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Inciting riots is something that the President does not have authority to do.

BS. Words have consequences when you're the president.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

BS. Words have consequences when you're the president.

as usual your comprehension skills are lacking. My full statement of which you quote only half clearly states that his words were cause for impeachment and not something that anyone supports. But keep going on your tribal warfare rants. The democrats are about to eat themselves alive with the moderates being fodder for the AOC's of the party.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

as usual your comprehension skills are lacking. My full statement of which you quote only half clearly states that his words were cause for impeachment and not something that anyone supports. But keep going on your tribal warfare rants. The democrats are about to eat themselves alive with the moderates being fodder for the AOC's of the party.

I know what you full statment said and it's BS ,Today is eating you and chico alive !

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

as usual your comprehension skills are lacking. My full statement of which you quote only half clearly states that his words were cause for impeachment and not something that anyone supports. But keep going on your tribal warfare rants. The democrats are about to eat themselves alive with the moderates being fodder for the AOC's of the party.

All this because G1 read your post wrong? Yeesh. So much for unity.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

All this because G1 read your post wrong? Yeesh. So much for unity.

I read it right

Cred............

"I said no in this thread before because the first set of impeachment articles were bogus politics.

Inciting riots is something that the President does not have authority to do. Count me as in favor of these articles of impeachment. ( still not the first set)"

This is condescending BS ,he wants you /us to know he was right on the first Impeachment but yeah he'll go along on this one. Nice of him ...............again it's BS.