Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

When Obama first ran for president I was struck by his positive energy, his intelligence, they way he spoke about hope and change. I never voted before Obama. I remember he did a speech in Baltimore and downtown was shut down. The crowds were huge. I remember we were literally running for a with few hundred other people to be the last to get into this section to see his speech and they literally had to close the gates right in front of us. We watched on TVs they set it in the inner harbor. I felt like a teenage girl running to see the Beatles for the first time. The energy and feeing was amazing. Hugging strangers. To see the faces of old black women and men seeing a black man being elected as president was so amazing. I felt like I was experiencing America back when JFK was elected.



Trump seems to be that for 60 million plus of my fellow Americans. Why can’t they have their Obama? Why aren’t they allowed to feel the energy of a president like I did with Obama?



I just can’t get past the fact that one man worked his way through life with nothing. Another was born to a rich millionaire. One man made it to the Ivy League on his brains and intelligence. The other was a paid for admission. One man was married to one woman, the other had multiple wives, had sex with a porn star while his wife was just gave birth and is currently in a contractual marriage to a woman who hates Christmas.



^ but these are the same elitist thoughts that partly gave birth to trump. Trump is a product of social media and hate. He is literally a reality tv show star.



To go from Obama to Donald Trump is so sad to me. But I can’t discount a vote for trump. We are all allowed a vote and a say. It is what it is. I can’t say I know better or I’m smarter than them. Even though college educated greatly lean left and non college greatly lean right.



But I imagine what you want to hear is “no alll trumps aren’t confederate flag waving rednecks and he got voters from all spectrums”

After Pres Obama's first State of the Union I came on here praising him because I wanted to believe. But his words were fairly hollow, though very smooth.

I voted libertarian in 2012.

What I "want to hear" is an acknowledgement from both sides that the debate is not about the person but the discussions should be how do these two Americas find common ground when the views and ideas are so distinctly opposite.

The views and ideas are not new by any standard. One size fits all federal ruled government vs the rights of individuals and states is as old as our constitution. Individual responsibility vs shared obligations isn't a Trump thing or Obama thing, it is a view of life thing. USA independence or world interdependence has been around since the Monroe doctrine was formed and before that when George Washington warned of the dangers of becoming entangled in foreign disputes.

Both sides in the US have some valid positions, but someone (i don't know who or how) needs to span the central truths that 70% of Americans believe and create policies for those 65-70%, leaving the loud vocal minorities on BOTH sides out of the discussion.

I "want that" at least here on the Warpath we all can set aside the pettiness that the leaders of both parties (Trump, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer are all petty in there own way) and discuss how to forge a workable common future path for the university educated and those educated by life, for those who live in downtown Baltimore and those who work on a farm in Kansas.

More people voted for Trump this time then last time. He will still lose the popular vote.
I believe alot of people who voted for trump were cursing the political system for making me vote for such a rotten person not because i like him, but because my ideas of how government should work are far more closely aligned with his policies than Biden's big government solutions.



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[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

After Pres Obama's first State of the Union I came on here praising him because I wanted to believe. But his words were fairly hollow, though very smooth.

I voted libertarian in 2012.

What I "want to hear" is an acknowledgement from both sides that the debate is not about the person but the discussions should be how do these two Americas find common ground when the views and ideas are so distinctly opposite.

The views and ideas are not new by any standard. One size fits all federal ruled government vs the rights of individuals and states is as old as our constitution. Individual responsibility vs shared obligations isn't a Trump thing or Obama thing, it is a view of life thing. USA independence or world interdependence has been around since the Monroe doctrine was formed and before that when George Washington warned of the dangers of becoming entangled in foreign disputes.

Both sides in the US have some valid positions, but someone (i don't know who or how) needs to span the central truths that 70% of Americans believe and create policies for those 65-70%, leaving the loud vocal minorities on BOTH sides out of the discussion.

I "want that" at least here on the Warpath we all can set aside the pettiness that the leaders of both parties (Trump, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer are all petty in there own way) and discuss how to forge a workable common future path for the university educated and those educated by life, for those who live in downtown Baltimore and those who work on a farm in Kansas.

More people voted for Trump this time then last time. He will still lose the popular vote.
I believe alot of people who voted for trump were cursing the political system for making me vote for such a rotten person not because i like him, but because my ideas of how government should work are far more closely aligned with his policies than Biden's big government solutions.



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Well said Cred. I agree. Everytime a key moment arises where one party refuses to work with the other it widens the divide a little deeper. If we could all compromise and work together we could have an America where everybody could succeed, but I don't believe that's possible without the 1% increasing their burden.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

After Pres Obama's first State of the Union I came on here praising him because I wanted to believe. But his words were fairly hollow, though very smooth.

I voted libertarian in 2012.

What I "want to hear" is an acknowledgement from both sides that the debate is not about the person but the discussions should be how do these two Americas find common ground when the views and ideas are so distinctly opposite.

The views and ideas are not new by any standard. One size fits all federal ruled government vs the rights of individuals and states is as old as our constitution. Individual responsibility vs shared obligations isn't a Trump thing or Obama thing, it is a view of life thing. USA independence or world interdependence has been around since the Monroe doctrine was formed and before that when George Washington warned of the dangers of becoming entangled in foreign disputes.

Both sides in the US have some valid positions, but someone (i don't know who or how) needs to span the central truths that 70% of Americans believe and create policies for those 65-70%, leaving the loud vocal minorities on BOTH sides out of the discussion.

I "want that" at least here on the Warpath we all can set aside the pettiness that the leaders of both parties (Trump, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer are all petty in there own way) and discuss how to forge a workable common future path for the university educated and those educated by life, for those who live in downtown Baltimore and those who work on a farm in Kansas.

More people voted for Trump this time then last time. He will still lose the popular vote.
I believe alot of people who voted for trump were cursing the political system for making me vote for such a rotten person not because i like him, but because my ideas of how government should work are far more closely aligned with his policies than Biden's big government solutions.



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Preach CRED. Gesus, what you wrote is a beautiful manifesto for the middle America. Seriously you wrote out in words and thoughts I couldn’t and wish I could articulate ... but I disagree with Obama hollow part lol

I’m too tired to answer the call of your question and try and identify specifics of common ground right now

Well said