Around the NFL week 13

[Monkeydad]

How do any of you know that Williams wasn't just following orders from the top, to secure that #1 pick?

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

How do any of you know that Williams wasn't just following orders from the top, to secure that #1 pick?

I don't but if he was, he probably wouldn't lose his job. Maybe he is back next year with a pay raise after the draft?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

How do any of you know that Williams wasn't just following orders from the top, to secure that #1 pick?

Because if you take the time to think about the logistics of it, it seems insane. Do you think Woody Johnson or one of his top lieutenants took the time to relay a message down to Gregg Williams that in the off-chance the game came down to one or two final plays, he needed to send a call that would give the Raiders the best chance to win?

Does Woody Johnson have a direct headset line to Gregg? Or does Woody Johnson send his assistant on the sideline a message to give to Gregg? Or does Johnson's assistant give the message to Gase who gives the message to Gregg? Or did Gase call the D and use Gregg as a scapegoat? Did Woody Johnson's assistant bypass Gase entirely and give the direct message to Gregg? What was the message? "Hey Gregg need you to blow the game here, can't lose that #1 pick in the 50/50 chance Trevor Lawrence declares for the draft." Did his assistant tell Gregg to call Cover 0? What kind of timeframe was this accomplished in? Did everything go down in the 20 seconds Gregg has to make the call? Did it happen with several minutes left in the 4th before they had any idea the game would come down to the last 20 seconds? Alls I'm saying is if we're gonna make asinine conspiracy theories, we need some sort of smoking gun to establish credibility. If not, you're just talking out of your ass.

BTW the alternative is that a coordinator with 20 years of calling aggressive defense made an aggressive call that he thought was ballsy AF and it ended up costing them the game.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by mooby

BTW the alternative is that a coordinator with 20 years of calling aggressive defense made an aggressive call that he thought was ballsy AF and it ended up costing them the game.

I honestly think double G wanted some style points to accentuate the Jets first win of the season .. bc thats how self centered narcissistic a-holes do, they want credit for any tiny success.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

I honestly think double G wanted some style points to accentuate the Jets first win of the season .. bc thats how self centered narcissistic a-holes do, they want credit for any tiny success.

I agree 100 percent. That is exactly what that was.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

How do any of you know that Williams wasn't just following orders from the top, to secure that #1 pick?

My 2 cents is GW doesn't take orders form anyone. He's an old outlaw renegade and died an outlaws death. Doubtful he ever gets another shot in the NFL after this one and man did he go out with a bang. Unfortunately there is no place in the NFL for these type of guys anymore. I liked him under Gibbs pt 2. D wasn't the problem. I'm kinda going to miss the guy.

[PorkSkins]

Joe Buck jinxed Justin Tucker. I immediately called the jinx.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

Joe Buck jinxed Justin Tucker. I immediately called the jinx.

I hate when Joe Buck talks. In general.

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

My 2 cents is GW doesn't take orders form anyone. He's an old outlaw renegade and died an outlaws death. Doubtful he ever gets another shot in the NFL after this one and man did he go out with a bang. Unfortunately there is no place in the NFL for these type of guys anymore. I liked him under Gibbs pt 2. D wasn't the problem. I'm kinda going to miss the guy.

Nahhh....I think he'll get another job. He can still scheme up a defense better than a lot of them. Nobody thought he'd be back after the bounty gate...but, he came back.