What happens with Kyle Smith?

[skinsfanmdc]

Watch Kyle leave...

https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/12/15...-on-kyle-smith

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfanmdc

Watch Kyle leave...

https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/12/15...-on-kyle-smith

That was your takeaway from this article?

I kinda agree with it, it sounds like Ron is saying this is a collaborative process that's bigger than just one man (which is how it should be).

Smith makes the list, Ron and his staff go over it and figure out who's the best fit and they work from there.

Only way I see Smith leaving is if he's beefing with Ron about who to go after. It could happen, sure, but we wouldn't know about it until Smith is out the door.

For now I choose to trust Ron and the path he leads us in.

[skinsfanmdc]

Originally Posted by mooby

That was your takeaway from this article?

I kinda agree with it, it sounds like Ron is saying this is a collaborative process that's bigger than just one man (which is how it should be).

Smith makes the list, Ron and his staff go over it and figure out who's the best fit and they work from there.

Only way I see Smith leaving is if he's beefing with Ron about who to go after. It could happen, sure, but we wouldn't know about it until Smith is out the door.

For now I choose to trust Ron and the path he leads us in.

I think Kyle leaves if Ron hires a new GM. Let's see if fans have faith in Ron if they step back next year, lose Kyle etc. It's Washington with Snyder, it's always something that screws up.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfanmdc

I think Kyle leaves if Ron hires a new GM. Let's see if fans have faith in Ron if they step back next year, lose Kyle etc. It's Washington with Snyder, it's always something that screws up.

That's a given.

[skinsfanmdc]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

That's a given.

This is all just talk of course. But I think It's going to be somebody from his past (Carolina maybe). Will will revisit this issue on why Kyle left, and blaming Ron. Remember this thread.

[SFREDSKIN]

Great podcast, GM talk at around the 20 minute mark, Rivera should trust Smith and quit fucking around. Talent evaluators like Smith don’t grow on trees, just ask Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, the Jets, etc.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7vJ5dyPqzE6BkOs17SVLxG

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Great podcast, GM talk at around the 20 minute mark, Rivera should trust Smith and quit fucking around. Talent evaluators like Smith don’t grow on trees, just ask Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, the Jets, etc.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7vJ5dyPqzE6BkOs17SVLxG

I'm a big Kyle Smith fan too, he's the best FO talent evaluator we've had in a while.

But the reality is, if Rivera doesn't know him well enough yet or hasn't developed trust with him, it's a hard sell to keep him if GM gets addressed next year. Keim mentioned Smith doesn't have the history with Rivera that others have, and I think that's a big driving factor. It's not to say that trust can't be developed, but it sounds like Ron isn't ready to hand him the GM job yet. Keim also mentioned a scenario where Ron hires a GM (probably someone he knows intimately) and Smith stays on in his current role to keep learning. With the way the league is I wouldn't be surprised if Smith gets a GM offer from somebody else, and if that happens we need to be prepared to let him advance his career elsewhere.

The #1 key thing you have to have is a partnership and trust between the GM and HC. That's why Carroll/Schneider are successful, yes Carroll probably has final say over Schneider but a coach/GM partnership will never work if the trust isn't there.

I think best case scenario Ron hires a GM and Kyle Smith stays on in his current role. Worst case? Kyle leaves. But the more we hear about this the more I think Ron isn't ready to have Kyle as his partner yet. (It could happen someday but I think Ron needs to see more).