What happens with Kyle Smith?

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If he comes to SF I’m going to have a coronary, I would hate to see him build this team into a dynasty, my most hated team in the NFL. Fucking beyond pissed off at letting him walk.

Now he's a dynasty builder... mmmmk...

Does anyone else on here think that the infatuation with Kyle is just a bit much - or is it just me. I mean, I'm sure he's a good guy, and he has a keen eye for talent (blah, blah, blah), but is he really a unicorn in that respect? Aren't there a ton of dudes around the league that can do his job as good or better? Y'all act like he has been the only one in the room when decisions were made - and he was the final decision maker.

Let him go already - if that is what is going to happen... At this point, I could care less.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Now he's a dynasty builder... mmmmk...

Does anyone else on here think that the infatuation with Kyle is just a bit much - or is it just me. I mean, I'm sure he's a good guy, and he has a keen eye for talent (blah, blah, blah), but is he really a unicorn in that respect? Aren't there a ton of dudes around the league that can do his job as good or better? Y'all act like he has been the only one in the room when decisions were made - and he was the final decision maker.

Let him go already - if that is what is going to happen... At this point, I could care less.

All of this 110%.

The franchise has shown signs of turning a corner primarily because of Rivera. I trust what he's doing.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Now he's a dynasty builder... mmmmk...

Does anyone else on here think that the infatuation with Kyle is just a bit much - or is it just me. I mean, I'm sure he's a good guy, and he has a keen eye for talent (blah, blah, blah), but is he really a unicorn in that respect? Aren't there a ton of dudes around the league that can do his job as good or better? Y'all act like he has been the only one in the room when decisions were made - and he was the final decision maker.

Let him go already - if that is what is going to happen... At this point, I could care less.

I don’t know how long you’ve been a fan, but after 30 fucking years of ineptitude, 3 years of solid drafts, especially the last 2. You don’t have to be blind to see what Smith has done. His mid to lower rounds are better than anyones, his achilles has been the 4th rounders, some of those picks are still to be determined if they’ll pan out. I guess McLaurin, Gibson, Settle, Holcomb, Moreland, Kurl and others are shitty picks? You think Mayhew/Hurney would be able to do that? I highly doubted.

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don’t know how long you’ve been a fan, but after 30 fucking years of ineptitude, 3 years of solid drafts, especially the last 2. You don’t have to be blind to see what Smith has done. His mid to lower rounds are better than anyones, his achilles has been the 4th rounders, some of those picks are still to be determined if they’ll pan out. I guess McLaurin, Gibson, Settle, Holcomb, Moreland, Kurl and others are shitty picks? You think Mayhew/Hurney would be able to do that? I highly doubted.

Were not blind but you are going WAY overboard with this. He’s not the only person on the planet who can pick players. Sorry but it is that simple. If it means that much to you, go follow the team he goes to.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

Were not blind but you are going WAY overboard with this. He’s not the only person on the planet who can pick players. Sorry but it is that simple. If it means that much to you, go follow the team he goes to.

Yeah, Casserly, Vinny, McCloughan and Allen did a great job, that’s why we haven’t done shit in 30 years.

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yeah, Casserly, Vinny, McCloughan and Allen did a great job, that’s why we haven’t done shit in 30 years.

Yeah it’s just that simple. 🤦*♂️ You’re basically hysterical. I’m out.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yeah, Casserly, Vinny, McCloughan and Allen did a great job, that’s why we haven’t done shit in 30 years.

I think you mean Dan Snyder...

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think you mean Dan Snyder...

Smith has worked Dan for 16 years and drafted for 3.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Smith has worked Dan for 16 years and drafted for 3.

Here's the past 9 drafts, players that are still in the league, making an impact - mostly starters, but some are now backups. They are still contributing as compared to other draft picks who are either not in the league or have disappeared on the benches somewhere.

2012 - RGIII, Kirk Cousins, Alfred Morris, Tom Compton
2013 - (no 1st Rd pick) Jordan Reed, Chris Thompson,
2014 - (no 1st Rd pick) Trent Murphy, Morgan Moses, Bashaud Breeland
2015 - Brandon Scherff, Preston Smith, Jamison Crowder, Austin Reiter
2016 - Kendall Fuller, Matt Ioannidis, Nate Sudfeld
2017 - Jonathan Allen, Ryan Anderson, Fabian Moreau, Chase Rouillier
2018 - Daron Payne, Tim Settle
2019 - Montez Sweat, Terry McLaurin, Cole Holcomb, Jimmy Moreland
2020 - Chase Young, Antonio Gibson, Kamren Curl

As you can see there were some pretty good picks prior to Kyle Smith and all his glory. There were also some pretty bad picks (not listed) before Kyle and with Kyle. The notion that things are markedly better because of his presence is simply false. You really really like him though, and that's ok. I just don't think he's as much of a difference maker as you would like to believe.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don’t know how long you’ve been a fan, but after 30 fucking years of ineptitude, 3 years of solid drafts, especially the last 2. You don’t have to be blind to see what Smith has done. His mid to lower rounds are better than anyones, his achilles has been the 4th rounders, some of those picks are still to be determined if they’ll pan out. I guess McLaurin, Gibson, Settle, Holcomb, Moreland, Kurl and others are shitty picks? You think Mayhew/Hurney would be able to do that? I highly doubted.

Therein lies the flaw in this argument. Again, you cannot attribute this roster and the previous three years of draft picks (both good and bad) to Smith, and Smith alone.