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Are there people walking free that committed mass shootings? What are we not enforcing exactly?
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You also are somehow working under a construct that all of these people can be save under the right rehabilitation. It’s a fantasy world...I’ve worked in that world. I once believed what you do. In some parts of the country over 80 percent of gun crime is with illegally possessed guns. You created deterrence and safer streets by eliminating the person possessing the illegal gun with clearly stating it will not be tolerated anymore with mandatory sentencing. You want to get community activism going, hold them accountable for the rehab of each person put behind bars for an illegal gun. Let them do the education, rehabilitation and job training. I’m so sick of the whining and them providing zero results. It’s beyond pathetic. If you want to reference mass shooting, I always have this linked saved: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/r.../mass-shooting Take a look where and who are committing these crimes. It’s not lawful gun owners
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I believe my position (not the NRA's) is the least hypocritical- punish those who use guns to commit violence, intervene with mental and economic assistance to reduce impetus' toward violence, and let citizens who want to own guns do so safely and openly. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk |
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I also feel like the gun problem can also be tied to the recidivism problem. Jail works as a punishment for a crime, but it does nothing in teaching a criminal how to break the cycle of returning to the life of crime after the sentence is over. The mass shooting thing - I think stronger background checks (means taking a little longer for your average law-abiding citizen) in conjunction with closing the loopholes would help in that regard. How many times do we see that article after a mass shooting talking about how many red flags the offender had but none of it came up when they legally purchased the gun used to commit the crime? Also think if you have been convicted of a violent crime that should clearly be noted when you go to purchase a gun. If you have DV convictions, or assault/battery/etc. convictions those are red flags that should come up (but every application should be reviewed on a case-by-case basis). Harsher penalties for straw purchases or people who don't report their registered gun being stolen too.
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