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MTK · 05-03-2021, 09:19 AM

This should be the final draft related thread for 2021 lol

Washington gets good grades for their 2021 draft class

I just went back and listened to Greg Cosell on the Ross Tucker podcast break down the LB group coming into this draft and he LOVED Davis, said he has elite traits.

skinsfaninok · 05-03-2021, 09:45 AM

Overall the lowest grade I've seen across any platform is a B.

I think we finally have a great group running the show folks. This team with its new identity and all that will gain more fans now.

Chico23231 · 05-03-2021, 09:49 AM

My biggest head scratcher is the CB from Minnesota, I thought there were better options.

I’ve heard scouting reports say he could play single high safety. Versatility is the big thing.

After we took the WR from UNC, this pick was much less of an issue from value standpoint as that was a steal.

Another reach to me was the TE from Boise state, but trusting the coaching staff as Logan Thomas exceeded everyone’s expectations not only here but across the league.

Cosmi, Davis, Brown, Toney were great picks. I think adding RB Patterson was big time, that was icing on the cake cause I think he will make the team if he can prove he can catch out the backfield.

SunnySide · 05-03-2021, 10:10 AM

Insert the "you cant grade a draft until 3 years later" mantra

We targeted physical abilities over production it seems. Davis, Cosmi, St Juste, Brown, Forrest all seem to be at the top end of athleticism. We are banking on them being able to be coached up and continue to improve.

Im somewhat left with the impression we just drafted our board vs reacting to how the draft played out. Seems like we drafted guys who RR interviewed with personally.

Especially that 4R on a blocking TE that by all looks was a pretty big reach. But he interviewed with RR personally. They have a good conversation ... suddenly we are picking him in the 4th when he was projected to be a 6th or UDFA.

I feel like the personal interviews steered our decisions vs being reactive to the board and who is dropping etc. I dont think we went BPA .. or our board favors physical stats vs film/playing stats

EdmundDorf · 05-03-2021, 10:16 AM

I had my breakdown during the draft

Makes me smile to see so many talking heads and internet experts think they know more than RR and JDR when it come to playing, coaching and drafting linebackers.

EdmundDorf · 05-03-2021, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SunnySide

Insert the "you cant grade a draft until 3 years later" mantra

We targeted physical abilities over production it seems. Davis, Cosmi, St Juste, Brown, Forrest all seem to be at the top end of athleticism. We are banking on them being able to be coached up and continue to improve.

Im somewhat left with the impression we just drafted our board vs reacting to how the draft played out. Seems like we drafted guys who RR interviewed with personally.

Especially that 4R on a blocking TE that by all looks was a pretty big reach. But he interviewed with RR personally. They have a good conversation ... suddenly we are picking him in the 4th when he was projected to be a 6th or UDFA.

I feel like the personal interviews steered our decisions vs being reactive to the board and who is dropping etc. I dont think we went BPA .. or our board favors physical stats vs film/playing stats

I suppose with so much uncertainty with evaluations and health this year they went with the find team first football players plan, cannot really condemn them for that though I agree a blocking tight end in the 4th seems a bit of a reach

Monkeydad · 05-03-2021, 10:37 AM

I have us a 'B' only because there were a couple of players we missed on that I would have liked to get when available like JOK, CB Elijah Molden, TE Tommy Trembel, LB Jabril Cox and WR Jaelon Darden who all slid further than they should have...but I am happy that Rivera had a plan and stuck to it. He watched the tape, so I trust him.

Well, you can't complain with the approach, we filled nearly every need. LB and LT were the most urgent positions and they were filled with potential stars in the league.

LB - Biggest need, potentially GREAT player picked
LT - Starter-quality player. The position is finally fixed post-Trent Williams.
CB - We have 2 solid starters already but lacked depth and a impact slot CB. Got one.
WR - Steal of our draft, made a good WR group one of the deeper in the NFL
TE - Big need for a backup TE. We took a solid, athletic blocking TE that will have a role.
S - Solid depth pick.
LS - We needed one and got one of the best available who could be here 15 years like Sundberg, Better to draft a talented one than look for a re-tread FA.
DE -If Kerrigan's not coming back, we need depth. Took two with good potential.
WR - Let's see what this last pick can do on special teams, we still need an improvement in the return game over Sims, Jr. who won't be making this team with all of the WR depth we have.

CRedskinsRule · 05-03-2021, 10:38 AM

I gave them a B in the poll. Overall, this grade comes down to trust. Do you trust that RR and JDR can draft the defensive players that will fit and possibly excel. Yes, so I think the defensive side gets an A because the athleticism combined with fit should enable many to be depth or better for years to come. On the offensive side, my trust in RR and Turner is not as high. I think they are still reaching and trying to find the identity that will work, so I have much less confidence in that side of the ball, and thus the B/C grade for offense. Hopefully when it all comes together, the team will see the value across the board.

SunnySide · 05-03-2021, 11:03 AM

Cosmi has really short arms .. 33" putting him in the lowest 12 percent for NFL tackles. Wingspan in the 22 percentile.

Arm length isnt the end all for tackles but its pretty important

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/samuel-cosmi

EdmundDorf · 05-03-2021, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Cosmi has really short arms .. 33" putting him in the lowest 12 percent for NFL tackles. Wingspan in the 22 percentile.

Arm length isnt the end all for tackles but its pretty important

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/samuel-cosmi

In the film I saw his arms looked plenty long enough, but he needs to polish up his technique being described as a waist rather than knee bender which is down to the coaches

skinsfaninok · 05-03-2021, 11:14 AM

One thing for sure, our line is deep and solid.

EdmundDorf · 05-03-2021, 11:37 AM

I think we can bid adieu to Wes Martin and Geron Christian. Saddiq Charles gives them a genuine backup OT option if they play him at guard.

sdskinsfan2001 · 05-03-2021, 11:42 AM

I like the draft. Don't love it.

Brown was an absolute steal. We really fixed up that WR room this offseason.

I like Cosmi. Super athletic. His height and athletic ability should be more than enough to overcome any short arm issues. I think he starts game 1, and we have an excellent swing tackle in Lucas. If Cosmi can play and Charles is healthy, our OLine depth is really good.

AnonEmouse · 05-03-2021, 11:58 AM

B
We didn't land an out and out star, at least as it looks right now, but I'd rather get 8 guys that can challenge the current roster, if not start, than bust out completely on the top rounds and be left with ST players at best. I reckon at least 5 of these guys will make the roster and 2-3 will be on the PS hopefully. I'd only pencil in Jamin and Cosmi as likely starters right now, but Brown could easily be pushing for the #4 or 5 WR position, maybe even #3.

SunnySide · 05-03-2021, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I like the draft. Don't love it.

Brown was an absolute steal. We really fixed up that WR room this offseason.

I like Cosmi. Super athletic. His height and athletic ability should be more than enough to overcome any short arm issues. I think he starts game 1, and we have an excellent swing tackle in Lucas. If Cosmi can play and Charles is healthy, our OLine depth is really good.

Yeah if Lucas could be our swing tackle, that would be awesome. You need 3 starting caliber tackles bc with injuries, that swing guy might end up taking more snaps then your week 1 starters. I always feel bad for the Lucas and Nshecke's of the world, always the brides maid and never the bride. Vitally important and has skills to be a low end starter but gets the step brother role.

Cosmi is off the charts strong, 99th percentile. Cant wait to see him, Matty I and Payne lifting together.

Wr Brown .. I nothing about the guy but everyone is raving about him, seems to have that uncanny Desean Jackson ability to track, adjust and catch those long over the shoulder balls.

Exciting times to see an atheletic LB, OT, CB and WR added to the mix. Plus CB Jackson and WR Samuel in FA.

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05-03-2021, 09:19 AM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,845	Post draft breakdown This should be the final draft related thread for 2021 lol Washington gets good grades for their 2021 draft class I just went back and listened to Greg Cosell on the Ross Tucker podcast break down the LB group coming into this draft and he LOVED Davis, said he has elite traits. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

05-03-2021, 09:45 AM	#2
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,192	Re: Post draft breakdown Overall the lowest grade I've seen across any platform is a B. I think we finally have a great group running the show folks. This team with its new identity and all that will gain more fans now. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

05-03-2021, 10:16 AM	#5
EdmundDorf The Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK, South Posts: 1,926	Re: Post draft breakdown I had my breakdown during the draft Makes me smile to see so many talking heads and internet experts think they know more than RR and JDR when it come to playing, coaching and drafting linebackers.

05-03-2021, 10:37 AM	#7
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Post draft breakdown I have us a 'B' only because there were a couple of players we missed on that I would have liked to get when available like JOK, CB Elijah Molden, TE Tommy Trembel, LB Jabril Cox and WR Jaelon Darden who all slid further than they should have...but I am happy that Rivera had a plan and stuck to it. He watched the tape, so I trust him. Well, you can't complain with the approach, we filled nearly every need. LB and LT were the most urgent positions and they were filled with potential stars in the league. LB - Biggest need, potentially GREAT player picked LT - Starter-quality player. The position is finally fixed post-Trent Williams. CB - We have 2 solid starters already but lacked depth and a impact slot CB. Got one. WR - Steal of our draft, made a good WR group one of the deeper in the NFL TE - Big need for a backup TE. We took a solid, athletic blocking TE that will have a role. S - Solid depth pick. LS - We needed one and got one of the best available who could be here 15 years like Sundberg, Better to draft a talented one than look for a re-tread FA. DE -If Kerrigan's not coming back, we need depth. Took two with good potential. WR - Let's see what this last pick can do on special teams, we still need an improvement in the return game over Sims, Jr. who won't be making this team with all of the WR depth we have. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

05-03-2021, 09:49 AM	#3
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,037	Re: Post draft breakdown My biggest head scratcher is the CB from Minnesota, I thought there were better options. I’ve heard scouting reports say he could play single high safety. Versatility is the big thing. After we took the WR from UNC, this pick was much less of an issue from value standpoint as that was a steal. Another reach to me was the TE from Boise state, but trusting the coaching staff as Logan Thomas exceeded everyone’s expectations not only here but across the league. Cosmi, Davis, Brown, Toney were great picks. I think adding RB Patterson was big time, that was icing on the cake cause I think he will make the team if he can prove he can catch out the backfield. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

05-03-2021, 10:10 AM	#4
SunnySide Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 4,568	Re: Post draft breakdown Insert the "you cant grade a draft until 3 years later" mantra We targeted physical abilities over production it seems. Davis, Cosmi, St Juste, Brown, Forrest all seem to be at the top end of athleticism. We are banking on them being able to be coached up and continue to improve. Im somewhat left with the impression we just drafted our board vs reacting to how the draft played out. Seems like we drafted guys who RR interviewed with personally. Especially that 4R on a blocking TE that by all looks was a pretty big reach. But he interviewed with RR personally. They have a good conversation ... suddenly we are picking him in the 4th when he was projected to be a 6th or UDFA. I feel like the personal interviews steered our decisions vs being reactive to the board and who is dropping etc. I dont think we went BPA .. or our board favors physical stats vs film/playing stats

05-03-2021, 10:38 AM	#8
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,701	Re: Post draft breakdown I gave them a B in the poll. Overall, this grade comes down to trust. Do you trust that RR and JDR can draft the defensive players that will fit and possibly excel. Yes, so I think the defensive side gets an A because the athleticism combined with fit should enable many to be depth or better for years to come. On the offensive side, my trust in RR and Turner is not as high. I think they are still reaching and trying to find the identity that will work, so I have much less confidence in that side of the ball, and thus the B/C grade for offense. Hopefully when it all comes together, the team will see the value across the board.

05-03-2021, 11:03 AM	#9
SunnySide Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 4,568	Re: Post draft breakdown Cosmi has really short arms .. 33" putting him in the lowest 12 percent for NFL tackles. Wingspan in the 22 percentile. Arm length isnt the end all for tackles but its pretty important https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/samuel-cosmi

05-03-2021, 11:14 AM	#11
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,192	Re: Post draft breakdown One thing for sure, our line is deep and solid. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

05-03-2021, 11:37 AM	#12
EdmundDorf The Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK, South Posts: 1,926	Re: Post draft breakdown I think we can bid adieu to Wes Martin and Geron Christian. Saddiq Charles gives them a genuine backup OT option if they play him at guard.

05-03-2021, 11:42 AM	#13
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 42 Posts: 20,609	Re: Post draft breakdown I like the draft. Don't love it. Brown was an absolute steal. We really fixed up that WR room this offseason. I like Cosmi. Super athletic. His height and athletic ability should be more than enough to overcome any short arm issues. I think he starts game 1, and we have an excellent swing tackle in Lucas. If Cosmi can play and Charles is healthy, our OLine depth is really good. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

05-03-2021, 11:58 AM	#14
AnonEmouse Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 59 Posts: 2,650	Re: Post draft breakdown B We didn't land an out and out star, at least as it looks right now, but I'd rather get 8 guys that can challenge the current roster, if not start, than bust out completely on the top rounds and be left with ST players at best. I reckon at least 5 of these guys will make the roster and 2-3 will be on the PS hopefully. I'd only pencil in Jamin and Cosmi as likely starters right now, but Brown could easily be pushing for the #4 or 5 WR position, maybe even #3.

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