Coronavirus (sports edition) thread

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

The “both sides” argument is more BS. There’s only one answer here that makes sense, get vaccinated and end this thing. It would/should have been over by now. Stop making this a political football.

That is simply useless parroting. Masks were going to end it. Lockouts were going to end it. Travel bans were going to end it. This thing has a course to run, and how long it takes is independent of the curves and charts we have seen from day 1. Remember when it started - flatten the curve, what a joke.

Australia has a 15% vaccination rate.
Germany has a 52% Vax rate
The US has a 50% Vax rate
France has a 48% Vax rate

Canada has a 59% Vax rate

Here are 2 graphs:
world deathrate from beginning til now
and
us death rate from beginning til now

The political catch phrases and jargon are just that jargon to stir up anxiety and fear in the masses one way or the other. We should be better than that.

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[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

That is simply useless parroting. Masks were going to end it. Lockouts were going to end it. Travel bans were going to end it. This thing has a course to run, and how long it takes is independent of the curves and charts we have seen from day 1. Remember when it started - flatten the curve, what a joke.

Australia has a 15% vaccination rate.
Germany has a 52% Vax rate
The US has a 50% Vax rate
France has a 48% Vax rate

Canada has a 59% Vax rate

Here are 2 graphs:
world deathrate from beginning til now
and
us death rate from beginning til now

The political catch phrases and jargon are just that jargon to stir up anxiety and fear in the masses one way or the other. We should be better than that.
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I can't tell exactly what your point is because you spammed us with images that made your point indecipherable, but I'm pretty sure you just went from somebody I respected a lot on here to an absolute joke of a critical thinker, never to be taken seriously again.

It takes a lifetime to build credibility, and moments to ruin it. - Buffett

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I can't tell exactly what your point is because you spammed us with images that made your point indecipherable, but I'm pretty sure you just went from somebody I respected a lot on here to an absolute joke of a critical thinker.

The funny thing about this comment is I was going to say the exact same thing about your 'only 1 side comment' and chose not to because it would not enhance anything.

Sorry if 6 graphs showing the deaths over time in relation to the 5 countries vax rates I mentioned in the text is indecipherable to you - though I am as positive it wasn't really indecipherable, or spamming, as I am that you would be never bogged down by 6 graphs given the work in statistical analysis and cap number sheets you have done on this site alone.

To be clear, my point in showing the graphs, was to show that regardless of country policy, or vax rate, this virus has a course to run.

A side point is that the NFL setting different standards for vax vs unvax'd will have 0 effect on the course of the virus. They do it for political purposes, and more importantly, they do it to give the general public an enhanced feeling of security so that they can fill up the stadiums for revenue purposes.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The funny thing about this comment is I was going to say the exact same thing about your 'only 1 side comment' and chose not to because it would not enhance anything.

Sorry if 6 graphs showing the deaths over time in relation to the 5 countries vax rates I mentioned in the text is indecipherable to you - though I am as positive it wasn't really indecipherable, or spamming, as I am that you would be never bogged down by 6 graphs given the work in statistical analysis and cap number sheets you have done on this site alone.

To be clear, my point in showing the graphs, was to show that regardless of country policy, or vax rate, this virus has a course to run.

A side point is that the NFL setting different standards for vax vs unvax'd will have 0 effect on the course of the virus. They do it for political purposes, and more importantly, they do it to give the general public an enhanced feeling of security so that they can fill up the stadiums for revenue purposes.

But you're missing oodles of context CRed, and it's causing you to misinterpret the graphs. Three very important things you're missing:

1) You need to overlay the dates on which various measures were put into place. Take the US graph, and draw a vertical line on the date when our social distancing measures were instituted. And draw another vertical line on the dates when the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were approved for emergency use authorization. The context you're missing is what the numbers would have been if no social distancing or masking measures were put in place, and what they would have been more recently if the vaccines weren't rolled out.

2) Trying to trend total COVID cases and expecting a meaningful visual trend to emerge is a fool's errand. We weren't testing for the illness consistently in the early going.

3) If you think coronaviruses need to run a course, as if they have a lifecycle, shows you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how viruses like these replicate themselves. The flu does not run its course, the flu follows this same peak and valley pattern and comes back every year, hence we are vaccinated every year. The common cold, another coronavirus, does the same thing, with more frequent peaks and valleys throughout the year, but peaking highest in colder weather when everyone spends more time indoors.
This coronavirus is no different and will not peter out on its own. It is well understood throughout the scientific community that it is here to stay and will require annual vaccination just like the flu does. Maybe you choose not to get the annual flu shot, after all it doesn't represent the same grave threat to life that COVID does. But it's here to stay like the cold and the flu. You'll need a booster every year, or you'll face this threat every winter in particular.

And before you go in on me about Australia, they've had closed borders since the pandemic began. So overlay that line on your little chart, too.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I can't tell exactly what your point is because you spammed us with images that made your point indecipherable, but I'm pretty sure you just went from somebody I respected a lot on here to an absolute joke of a critical thinker, never to be taken seriously again.

It takes a lifetime to build credibility, and moments to ruin it. - Buffett

Dude .. thats a lot of vitriol for a Monday morning.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Dude .. thats a lot of vitriol for a Monday morning.

Nice to meet you, I'm Schneed, I go in on dumbass shit.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Me in fall 2022 getting flu and covid booster shots at the same time.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Me in fall 2022 getting flu and covid booster shots at the same time.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Me in fall 2022 getting flu and covid booster shots at the same time.

LOL!!!

Reminds of a few years ago when, right before my daughter was born, I was getting the flu shot and realized I needed to get a Tdap booster vaccine.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Me in fall 2022 getting flu and covid booster shots at the same time.

Omaha, Omaha, I'd liked to audible this to late fall/early winter of 2021.

[rocnrik]

Covid ain’t slowing up college ball .. just watched Georgia game .. packed house , never saw a mask ..elbow to elbow … then I turn over to news and I’m reminded the end is near … oh wait a minute I just saw one guy hugging another that did have a mask .. it makes you think ..so they force people to wear mask.. you can get fired for not getting Vax and yet the Big MONEY NCAA can have prime time match up and completely be null and void of any covid protocol… makes no sense at all …

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

That is simply useless parroting. Masks were going to end it. Lockouts were going to end it. Travel bans were going to end it. This thing has a course to run, and how long it takes is independent of the curves and charts we have seen from day 1. Remember when it started - flatten the curve, what a joke.

Australia has a 15% vaccination rate.
Germany has a 52% Vax rate
The US has a 50% Vax rate
France has a 48% Vax rate

Canada has a 59% Vax rate

Here are 2 graphs:
world deathrate from beginning til now
and
us death rate from beginning til now

The political catch phrases and jargon are just that jargon to stir up anxiety and fear in the masses one way or the other. We should be better than that.

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Masks and lockdowns were going to contain it, not end it. They were going to keep it in check until we could get shots in arms. What was not expected was so many people turning into dumb ass anti vaxxers over night because of YouTube videos.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Masks and lockdowns were going to contain it, not end it. They were going to keep it in check until we could get shots in arms. What was not expected was so many people turning into dumb ass anti vaxxers over night because of YouTube videos.

This is precisely the bigoted, judgmental attitude that is making this debate so hateful.

Completely discounting people's actual, legitimate health concerns and pushing an untested, unapproved injection on them against their better judgement. Not wanting this experimental injection doesn't make someone an "anti-vaxxer", that's just blanketing and generalizing.

Many doctors are advising against it and actually making it a case-by-case basis. To do otherwise and universally inject everyone is just moronic and goes against the oath doctors take.

Do you even realize there are currently more people dying after and or/from the vaccines than from the virus itself?

.05% are dying after being vaccinated.

.03% are dying from the virus.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

This is precisely the bigoted, judgmental attitude that is making this debate so hateful.

Completely discounting people's actual, legitimate health concerns and pushing an untested, unapproved injection on them against their better judgement. Not wanting this experimental injection doesn't make someone an "anti-vaxxer", that's just blanketing and generalizing.

Many doctors are advising against it and actually making it a case-by-case basis. To do otherwise and universally inject everyone is just moronic and goes against the oath doctors take.

Do you even realize there are currently more people dying after and or/from the vaccines than from the virus itself?

.05% are dying after being vaccinated.

.03% are dying from the virus.

what's your source on this?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

what's your source on this?

HVAC guy probably.