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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Well the point was we wouldn't have had to get them out if we stuck with what we were doing. Again 8-10 casualties a year and an occasional non military American casualty before last year then none for over a year. Now potentially thousands of American casualties (Oh and odds are some have already been killed). This idiocy is mind boggling. Seems we replaced one of the worst Presidents in US history with one of the worst Presidents in US history.

So why is everyone in favor of leaving? Forget the hack job exit for a moment, clearly the last few presidents, and most Americans wanted out.
Not in disagreement with you, seriously asking.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

So why is everyone in favor of leaving? Forget the hack job exit for a moment, clearly the last few presidents, and most Americans wanted out.
Not in disagreement with you, seriously asking.

Bad policy can be popular. Popularity of a position doesn't = it being the right or correct position. A good President (when he is able) will make the right decision not the popular decision or decision that he thinks will score him the most political points.
Examples
- Prohibition
- Opposition to Lend Lease 1940-41 (President made right decision - went against popular choice).
- Detention of Japanese Americans
- The War on Poverty - (The Economic Opportunity Act 1964).
- 1980s Opposition to Nuclear Missile fielding in Europe (President made right decision - went against popular choice).
- Regime change in Iraq
- Full Iraq withdrawal 2011
- And now Afghan withdrawal.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Bad policy can be popular. Popularity of a position doesn't = it being the right or correct position. A good President (when he is able) will make the right decision not the popular decision or decision that he thinks will score him the most political points.
Examples
- Prohibition
- Opposition to Lend Lease 1940-41 (President made right decision - went against popular choice).
- Detention of Japanese Americans
- The War on Poverty - (The Economic Opportunity Act 1964).
- 1980s Opposition to Nuclear Missile fielding in Europe (President made right decision - went against popular choice).
- Regime change in Iraq
- Full Iraq withdrawal 2011
- And now Afghan withdrawal.

I hear you but this was overwhelmingly popular with not only politicians but citizens…but I hear you