Snyder (the absolute worst owner in all of sports) to stay on a owner

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by MTK

Wow check this out

@AndrewBrandt
I grew up a diehard Washington fan, tough to see/comment. But lost my fandom when my friend went to pick up daughters at Daniel Snyder's house; they were at play date with Snyder's daughters.
My friend: "Thanks for having my girls over, Dan."
"It's Mr. Snyder."
Who does that?

@BNoble75
Here’s a good one. I get MRSA, might lose a leg, maybe more. WFT doc refuses to treat me (another story) About to roll into operating room, Dan & Coach Gibbs show up. Dressed in tuxedos, post black tie event. Coach asks how I’m doing, Dan asks if I’m gonna sue them.

Makes you really wonder how he ever got Joe Gibbs to come back and coach for him...must've completely had Joe fooled...although I can't figure out how that was possible.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

Makes you really wonder how he ever got Joe Gibbs to come back and coach for him...must've completely had Joe fooled...although I can't figure out how that was possible.

Because he respects Joe Gibbs and thus defers to him.

Joe Gibbs, besides being of one the all time great coaches, is also the proverbial "good man." He probably does not dislike anyone. And as a coach, he dealt with a myriad of personalities from Riggo to JT to Gary Clark to Dexter and so on. To him, Danny is just another eccentric with a bloated ego coming down the hallways.

Joe Gibbs- and most of the Redskins, past and present- LIKE Danny. Danny is an ace jock-sniffer. One of the few things he is good at.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

Makes you really wonder how he ever got Joe Gibbs to come back and coach for him...must've completely had Joe fooled...although I can't figure out how that was possible.

My guess is Joe knew exactly what he was getting into. But the timing was right, the money was right, and maybe he thought he could counsel Dan into being a better owner.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by MTK

My guess is Joe knew exactly what he was getting into. But the timing was right, the money was right, and maybe he thought he could counsel Dan into being a better owner.

That was my hope at the time. Guess it didn't work.

Joe also spent more than a decade dealing with Jack Kent Cooke. Now, JKC was obviously a better owner than DS and certainly a classier individual. But he still had a titanic ego and life outlook out of the early 50s.

Win 3 Super Bowls with that breathing down your neck and you probably see Danny as bush league.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by JackLord

That was my hope at the time. Guess it didn't work.

Joe also spent more than a decade dealing with Jack Kent Cooke. Now, JKC was obviously a better owner than DS and certainly a classier individual. But he still had a titanic ego and life outlook out of the early 50s.

Win 3 Super Bowls with that breathing down your neck and you probably see Danny as bush league.

True good point, after working with JKC he probably thought Dan would be a breeze.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by JackLord

That was my hope at the time. Guess it didn't work.

Joe also spent more than a decade dealing with Jack Kent Cooke. Now, JKC was obviously a better owner than DS and certainly a classier individual. But he still had a titanic ego and life outlook out of the early 50s.

Win 3 Super Bowls with that breathing down your neck and you probably see Danny as bush league.

Cooke owned the team when there was no internet or social media. The horror stories about him were mostly kept out of the public eye. Had Cooke owned the team in this kind of era it would not be pretty.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Cooke owned the team when there was no internet or social media. The horror stories about him were mostly kept out of the public eye. Had Cooke owned the team in this kind of era it would not be pretty.

What horror stories?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by JackLord

What horror stories?

Cooke basically disowned his own son ( Ralph) for several years. Also pretty much screwed John over when it came to getting the team, even though John was 10% owner.

He almost fired Gibbs after 5 games and made him and BB go to his house after games during that 0-5 start.

Also a lot of bad stories about him when he ran Lakers/Kings. Employees were subject to termination if they didn't pick up their phones after a certain amount of rings. Same stuff as Snyder... you didn't talk to him unless he talked to you. No one was allowed to call him anything but Mr. Cooke. When he talked to you you had to respond w, "Yes sir -no sir" No one was allowed to talk while at work or call each other by their first names. Really weird shit.

Dan is kind of a shitty guy but no one has heard anything about him being a crappy parent. Cooke on the other hand? idk..

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Cooke basically disowned his own son ( Ralph) for several years. Also pretty much screwed John over when it came to getting the team, even though John was 10% owner.

He almost fired Gibbs after 5 games and made him and BB go to his house after games during that 0-5 start.

Also a lot of bad stories about him when he ran Lakers/Kings. Employees were subject to termination if they didn't pick up their phones after a certain amount of rings. Same stuff as Snyder... you didn't talk to him unless he talked to you. No one was allowed to call him anything but Mr. Cooke. When he talked to you you had to respond w, "Yes sir -no sir" No one was allowed to talk while at work or call each other by their first names. Really weird shit.

Dan is kind of a shitty guy but no one has heard anything about him being a crappy parent. Cooke on the other hand? idk..

Well, family disputes are complicated, especially among the high & mighty.

Almost only counts in horseshoes and he never fired Gibbs. The thought would cross most peoples' minds after 5 losses, but he did not act on it. Now, what would Danny have done?

With regards to the Lakers stuff, that was not considered unusual at all back then. Sign of the times. Plus there was no big money, let alone free agency, and athletes were generally more pliant. Different times.

Also, Cooke was a very regal figure for most of his like. Calling him Mr. Cooke or Sir was not only customary for those times, but also normal due to this stature. Mostly though, it was because Cooke accomplished great things and earned that deference and respect. Can anyone say the same about Snyder?

You raise an interesting point with regards to Cooke's son and the team. It looked like as you describe. But I have since heard that Cooke did that in a (boneheaded) move to reduce taxes or some such. I would chalk it up to the fact that most of his final decisions were characterized by questionable judgement- his final marriage, the design of FedEx field, stadium negotiations with DC that were at best neurotic. In short, Cooke had become a very old man who had diminished impulse control and perhaps diminished faculties.

So, I would not call those horror stories. They were simply accounts of man from a different age who lived in a world we can only imagine.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by JackLord

What horror stories?

Like you said titanic ego and early 50’s outlook in life I believe is what he is getting out. More a product of his times while dan is just s douche.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by JackLord

What horror stories?

JKC was the type of guy that would get older but his wives would stay the same age.

[OnceWeWereKings]

Originally Posted by jamf

JKC was the type of guy that would get older but his wives would stay the same age.

Best comment of the thread so far.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by jamf

JKC was the type of guy that would get older but his wives would stay the same age.

Is that bad?

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

My guess is Joe knew exactly what he was getting into. But the timing was right, the money was right, and maybe he thought he could counsel Dan into being a better owner.

Agree. The timing couldn't have been better for Joe. He needed the money and Dan obliged.