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Old 11-06-2021, 11:15 AM   #1
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Anyone who says they don’t see color is lying.

The black tax in professional settings is real.

We all consciously and sub consciously make instantaneous opinions on others. Color of skin, age, clothing, what part of town we are in, type of car they are driving, hat or nicely combed hair …. Skin color is a big part of many factors we instantaneously analyze when we see someone.

A white person saying they didn’t have a minor pause when a black doctor walks into the room is lying.

A black person saying they didn’t have a minor pause when a black doctor walks into the room is lying.

Race and prejudice are natural human thoughts and feelings.

Before you neo conservatives get your feelings hurt … I think black people also pre judge and hold prejudices

If you think race isn’t a big factor in every minut detail of human interaction in every corner of the world … I think you’re not being honest
The point is that in policy, hiring - everything for that matter, CRT rejects color blindness and meritocracy. That is the point of the theory and why it differs from and rejects the goals of the Civil Rights movement. It embraces racial identity, segregation and collective guilt. Until the Jack-ass got involved even most liberals didn't support it. Once he started attacking it those Trump anti-bodies took control and suddenly it was something to be embraced and defended.
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Old 11-06-2021, 12:01 PM   #2
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The point is that in policy, hiring - everything for that matter, CRT rejects color blindness and meritocracy. That is the point of the theory and why it differs from and rejects the goals of the Civil Rights movement. It embraces racial identity, segregation and collective guilt. Until the Jack-ass got involved even most liberals didn't support it. Once he started attacking it those Trump anti-bodies took control and suddenly it was something to be embraced and defended.
You posted an article from Sullivan (?) in which he opined crt was just the latest dog whistle to rile up the far right base.

I share that opinion.

I have a 4th grader … I’ll keep my eye out for schools teaching her white people are evil. She’s half black half white so I’m sure she will feel conflicted. I’ll also check under her bed for the boogie man.

I went to a liberal college and law school in California …. I’ve never been taught CRT so I do think it’s just some minor obscure non relevant thing that the right has used to try and politicize

I don’t give a fuck abiut crt and really think it’s a non factor in schools
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Old 11-06-2021, 12:27 PM   #3
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You posted an article from Sullivan (?) in which he opined crt was just the latest dog whistle to rile up the far right base.

I share that opinion.

I have a 4th grader … I’ll keep my eye out for schools teaching her white people are evil. She’s half black half white so I’m sure she will feel conflicted. I’ll also check under her bed for the boogie man.

I went to a liberal college and law school in California …. I’ve never been taught CRT so I do think it’s just some minor obscure non relevant thing that the right has used to try and politicize

I don’t give a fuck abiut crt and really think it’s a non factor in schools
Yep but Sullivan was extremely critical of CRT in that article as well. Of course Trump and other elements are using it for political purposes but the reason he can is that it was being used in areas to guide policy - if it hadn't been there wouldn't have been anything for him to grab onto. And when he decided to use it this way the support for this excretable theory suddenly materialized by many on the left.

And good for you that you have a half black/half white child - so do I (mine is a college sophomore).
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Old 11-06-2021, 12:16 PM   #4
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The point is that in policy, hiring - everything for that matter, CRT rejects color blindness and meritocracy. That is the point of the theory and why it differs from and rejects the goals of the Civil Rights movement. It embraces racial identity, segregation and collective guilt. Until the Jack-ass got involved even most liberals didn't support it. Once he started attacking it those Trump anti-bodies took control and suddenly it was something to be embraced and defended.
Until the jack ass got involved … no one knew or cared what CRT was. It is a nothing thing, some theology on paper that may have been written in some 300 level sociology class, that the right has built up as some sort of rallying cry that big bad schools are teaching kids white people bad.

No one was for or against CRT before the right dragged it from obscurity into the political lime light.

Liberals arent defending CRT when they say it’s just some bullshit political dog whistle campaign tactic that isn’t even taught in schools to begin with.

It’s some made up boogie man for the right to rally around.

I thought you were smarter than this honestly … a bit disappointed you buy into this CRT thing
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Old 11-06-2021, 12:31 PM   #5
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Until the jack ass got involved … no one knew or cared what CRT was. It is a nothing thing, some theology on paper that may have been written in some 300 level sociology class, that the right has built up as some sort of rallying cry that big bad schools are teaching kids white people bad.

No one was for or against CRT before the right dragged it from obscurity into the political lime light.

Liberals arent defending CRT when they say it’s just some bullshit political dog whistle campaign tactic that isn’t even taught in schools to begin with.

It’s some made up boogie man for the right to rally around.

I thought you were smarter than this honestly … a bit disappointed you buy into this CRT thing
Uh no I had been aware and opposed it long before last year. (Identity Politics is my #1 pet peeve has been for a very long time).
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Uh no I had been aware and opposed APPLES long before last year. (ORANGES are my #1 pet peeve has been for a very long time).
Fify.

The right made it political because well …. We all know why. Status quo.
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Old 11-06-2021, 08:03 PM   #7
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Until the jack ass got involved … no one knew or cared what CRT was. It is a nothing thing, some theology on paper that may have been written in some 300 level sociology class, that the right has built up as some sort of rallying cry that big bad schools are teaching kids white people bad.

No one was for or against CRT before the right dragged it from obscurity into the political lime light.

Liberals arent defending CRT when they say it’s just some bullshit political dog whistle campaign tactic that isn’t even taught in schools to begin with.

It’s some made up boogie man for the right to rally around.

I thought you were smarter than this honestly … a bit disappointed you buy into this CRT thing
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If I really wanted to get into CRT - I'd go to college.
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Old 11-09-2021, 01:44 PM   #8
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I thought you were smarter than this honestly … a bit disappointed you buy into this CRT thing
nonniery .. im sorry for this comment above that I made this weekend. it was petty, i should be able to disagree with your thoughts without the "thought you were smarter" back hand statement.
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Old 11-09-2021, 01:59 PM   #9
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nonniery .. im sorry for this comment above that I made this weekend. it was petty, i should be able to disagree with your thoughts without the "thought you were smarter" back hand statement.
My go-to insult of choice is self-righteous. I think I've regretted every post I've made after a discussion turned into more of an argument (well at least by the next day anyways).

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Old 11-09-2021, 03:56 PM   #10
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nonniery .. im sorry for this comment above that I made this weekend. it was petty, i should be able to disagree with your thoughts without the "thought you were smarter" back hand statement.

I consider “thought you were smarter than this” the perfect insult because it is disguised as a compliment.
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I consider “thought you were smarter than this” the perfect insult because it is disguised as a compliment.
I'm gonna start using a Thumbs Up 👍.

It's disguised like I'm actually agreeing with someone.
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I'm gonna start using a Thumbs Up .

It's disguised like I'm actually agreeing with someone.

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