Ron Rivera

[SunnySide]

Howell is a 5th rounder who looked decent in pre season.

Most 5th rounders look decent in the pre season going against soon-to-be grocery store employees and vanilla defenses.

Wentz will be injured soon enough and Heinike will come in, give us a spark for a few games. Maybe Howell comes in last few weeks .. after hes had a few weeks prepping as the no. 2.

Howell talk 5 games in is unrealistic imo.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Howell is a 5th rounder who looked decent in pre season.

Most 5th rounders look decent in the pre season going against soon-to-be grocery store employees and vanilla defenses.

Wentz will be injured soon enough and Heinike will come in, give us a spark for a few games. Maybe Howell comes in last few weeks .. after hes had a few weeks prepping as the no. 2.

Howell talk 5 games in is unrealistic imo.

Happens all the time though.
Bailey Zappe looks ok. There are a long listvof guys drafted after the third round that have started their rookie seasons. Many have found success.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Happens all the time though.
Bailey Zappe looks ok. There are a long listvof guys drafted after the third round that have started their rookie seasons. Many have found success.

I have to disagree about Zappe. He looks like a late round pick that is going to manage a game and throw on third and long or on prescribed short routes. There is nothing wrong with that Bill is a great coach and will maximize that to its highest potential.

If we had a Bill coach I would, without equivocations, want Howell to start because from what I have seen of him he can do what Zappe is doing but I wouldn't trust him with much else.

I am torn about starting him. Regardless of how he performs I still think we take a QB with the one, but I think starting him buys more time for Ron. The people that would fire him are dumb enough to buy the excuses he will create by starting him. The flip side is you have to see what he can do against defensive players that are currently not working at Del taco or the Apple genius bar so hee needs to play in a regular season game.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I have to disagree about Zappe. He looks like a late round pick that is going to manage a game and throw on third and long or on prescribed short routes. There is nothing wrong with that Bill is a great coach and will maximize that to its highest potential.

If we had a Bill coach I would, without equivocations, want Howell to start because from what I have seen of him he can do what Zappe is doing but I wouldn't trust him with much else.

I am torn about starting him. Regardless of how he performs I still think we take a QB with the one, but I think starting him buys more time for Ron. The people that would fire him are dumb enough to buy the excuses he will create by starting him. The flip side is you have to see what he can do against defensive players that are currently not working at Del taco or the Apple genius bar so hee needs to play in a regular season game.

Point taken about our staff. We would fuck up Josh Allen, that being said Ron is a dead man walking. Leaving him out of the equation I need to see what we got with Howell. Zappe was just an example of a late round pick playing his rookie season. Like I said there are others. Hopefully Ron is thinking about the team and its future, like an adult, and not about buying himself time. Even if he is Wentz aint cutting it and Taylor is who Taylor is. You plug Howell in - an RR draftpick - and he plays well - well then you have bought yourself some time …. Maybe.
I would hate to take a qb with the one and find out Howell is a gamer. Best case scenario Howell is the guy and we take lb, lt, or cb with the 1. If there was ever a time to find out it is this season- not only do we stink but the usual hope we win a weak division isn’t an option. This season is over. Play the kid.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Happens all the time though.
Bailey Zappe looks ok. There are a long listvof guys drafted after the third round that have started their rookie seasons. Many have found success.

Such as?

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by mooby

Such as?

There is ah , then also you know and oh oh don’t forget about that other guy. I could go on all day.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

Such as?

SS said Howell talk five games in is unrealistic. I said it happens all the time, meaning later round picks see starting action at some point in their rookie season- not that they start the season as the 1.

Also when I said “many have found success” i meant that they weren’t ruined by being thrown into the fire - found success eventually not necessarily immediately.

Bad wording on my part.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by mooby

Such as?

Dak Prescott and that's where that ends.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by mooby

Such as?

Gus Frerotte!