Around the NFL…Week 8

Ruhskins · 11-01-2022, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

How is Chase Claypool worth more than Roquan Smith? Maybe I am old fashioned but if you are trying to build a team having an All Pro MLB to build a defence around would seem to be the best place to start

Roquan Smith has publicly said that he wants to leave the Bears. That kinda kills your leverage in negotiations. Also, I believe Claypool is younger?

SFREDSKIN · 11-01-2022, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

@RapSheet
Sources: The #Steelers aren’t done. They are finalizing a trade for #Commanders CB Will Jackson III, some help for their defense.

Best news of the season!! They got more than ham sandwich which is what I was expecting

EdmundDorf · 11-01-2022, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Roquan Smith has publicly said that he wants to leave the Bears. That kinda kills your leverage in negotiations. Also, I believe Claypool is younger?

Wasn't that because they didn't want to pay him though?

mooby · 11-01-2022, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SunnySide

So many trades ... its like baseball.

Glad WJ3 contract will be off books for next year. Thought he was a good singing when it happened. Physical man corner, young, consistent .. comes here and sucks at playing off man.

WJ3 is def a better player than he showed here but glad contract is off the books, just didnt work out.

Agreed. I'm very surprised they got anything for him. Best part is getting the contract off the books.

I was waiting for the release announcement lol.

mooby · 11-01-2022, 07:33 PM

https://twitter.com/JPFinlayNBCS/sta...38758060179459

I appreciate Ron's honesty on the matter. "Our evaluation was wrong." - How many times in your life are you gonna hear a coach/GM say that?

https://twitter.com/john_keim/status...73493243191296

Keim making a good point too.

sdskinsfan2001 · 11-01-2022, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

https://twitter.com/JPFinlayNBCS/sta...38758060179459

I appreciate Ron's honesty on the matter. "Our evaluation was wrong." - How many times in your life are you gonna hear a coach/GM say that?

https://twitter.com/john_keim/status...73493243191296

Keim making a good point too.

Can definitely respect Rivera for that. Being wrong happens all the time, admitting it doesn't.

AnonEmouse · 11-01-2022, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Can definitely respect Rivera for that. Being wrong happens all the time, admitting it doesn't.

Agreed, and respect to him for the honesty. BUT wasn't Jackson touted as an excellent man cover guy? What in his resume had anyone thinking he'd be equally good in a mostly zone scheme? Hard to blame Jackson unless he talked himself up to the evaluators as a zone cover guy.

sdskinsfan2001 · 11-01-2022, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

Agreed, and respect to him for the honesty. BUT wasn't Jackson touted as an excellent man cover guy? What in his resume had anyone thinking he'd be equally good in a mostly zone scheme? Hard to blame Jackson unless he talked himself up to the evaluators as a zone cover guy.

A good man-to-man corner is an amazing athlete. That's probably the hardest non-QB thing to be elite at. I can see how you could figure if a guy can be a lock down man guy, he should be capable of playing in a zone scheme. But it just wasn't the case here. It's too bad because we need a No. 1 corner.

AnonEmouse · 11-01-2022, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

A good man-to-man corner is an amazing athlete. That's probably the hardest non-QB thing to be elite at. I can see how you could figure if a guy can be a lock down man guy, he should be capable of playing in a zone scheme. But it just wasn't the case here. It's too bad because we need a No. 1 corner.

A guy that's played primarily as a man cover corner will have developed different instincts to a guy primarily playing zone. Unless he'd been coached up in zone for some time, it's very easy to understand why he'd struggle in zone.

What got me here is there are ways to scheme up to leverage his skills and hide his weaknesses (mixed man/zone schemes etc.). They expected him to do all the adapting.

SFREDSKIN · 11-01-2022, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

https://twitter.com/JPFinlayNBCS/sta...38758060179459

I appreciate Ron's honesty on the matter. "Our evaluation was wrong." - How many times in your life are you gonna hear a coach/GM say that?

https://twitter.com/john_keim/status...73493243191296

Keim making a good point too.

Now if could repeat that about Wentz

sdskinsfan2001 · 11-01-2022, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

A guy that's played primarily as a man cover corner will have developed different instincts to a guy primarily playing zone. Unless he'd been coached up in zone for some time, it's very easy to understand why he'd struggle in zone.

What got me here is there are ways to scheme up to leverage his skills and hide his weaknesses (mixed man/zone schemes etc.). They expected him to do all the adapting.

The staff definitely could have done a better job to play to his strengths. I prefer a more man-based defense myself.

But I still don't mind the signing. It just didn't work out and now all parties can move on. Fuck Dan's money anyways lol.

mooby · 11-01-2022, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Now if could repeat that about Wentz

I gotta be honest - hard to be mad at Ron for Wentz. They were wrong about him too, but if Heinicke continues to be adequate for the stretch of games I expect Wentz to ride the bench for the rest of the year, and then they can dump him in the offseason without a huge cap penalty. So they hedged their bet in a big way and it looks like it will pay off this offseason.

jamf · 11-01-2022, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Now if could repeat that about Wentz

And those bum ass guards!

sdskinsfan2001 · 11-01-2022, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

And those bum ass guards!

I respect your avatar work lol. But still, fuck Kurt.

WCommandersfan99 · 11-02-2022, 12:09 AM

Thought Jackson would work out better but happy for all parties about the team parting ways with him. Sounds like they'll get out of a huge contract. Like the Smith trade for Baltimore. He's only 25 and leading the NFL in tackles. Feel Chicago overpaid for Claypool a bit with the 2nd rounder. Like the deal for Minny to get Hockensen. Hope he doesn't play Sunday lol but bet he does. Pretty active period really in the league right before the trade deadline.

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mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,299	Re: Around the NFL…Week 8 https://twitter.com/JPFinlayNBCS/sta...38758060179459 I appreciate Ron's honesty on the matter. "Our evaluation was wrong." - How many times in your life are you gonna hear a coach/GM say that? https://twitter.com/john_keim/status...73493243191296 Keim making a good point too. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

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WCommandersfan99 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,059	Re: Around the NFL…Week 8 Thought Jackson would work out better but happy for all parties about the team parting ways with him. Sounds like they'll get out of a huge contract. Like the Smith trade for Baltimore. He's only 25 and leading the NFL in tackles. Feel Chicago overpaid for Claypool a bit with the 2nd rounder. Like the deal for Minny to get Hockensen. Hope he doesn't play Sunday lol but bet he does. Pretty active period really in the league right before the trade deadline.

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