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Old 12-19-2022, 12:23 PM   #1
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Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread

I dont think we need to say more....

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Brian Robinson got 4 carries in the second half of that game. Antonio Gibson had 1 second half carry.
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Old 12-19-2022, 12:26 PM   #2
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Brian Robinson got 4 carries in the second half of that game. Antonio Gibson had 1 second half carry.
Trying to watch a game with Scott Turner calling plays:

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Brian Robinson got 4 carries in the second half of that game. Antonio Gibson had 1 second half carry.
Down 3-14 at half.

1st possession of second half we go 6 plays, 91 yards for a Tiddy. Score is 9-14

giants get FG on their next possession, 9-17

2nd possession - run, pass, run, punt

3rd possession - run, run, run, pass, run, pass, FG Score is 12-17

4th possession (5 plays, 77 yds gained) - pass, run, run, pass, QB fumble on NYG's 9 yard line

Giants go 9 plays, 4:11 off clock, FG score is 12-20 ...

5th possession - 2 min drive down to their goaline, B Rob actually scores then flags and then no flags

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Turner sucks ... but dialed up a must have 2 min drive to get into the EZ before BS flags

Turner sucks .. but dialed up 91 yard TD scoring drive to start the 2nd half down double digits
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Down 3-14 at half.

1st possession of second half we go 6 plays, 91 yards for a Tiddy. Score is 9-14

giants get FG on their next possession, 9-17

2nd possession - run, pass, run, punt

3rd possession - run, run, run, pass, run, pass, FG Score is 12-17

4th possession (5 plays, 77 yds gained) - pass, run, run, pass, QB fumble on NYG's 9 yard line

Giants go 9 plays, 4:11 off clock, FG score is 12-20 ...

5th possession - 2 min drive down to their goaline, B Rob actually scores then flags and then no flags

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Turner sucks ... but dialed up a must have 2 min drive to get into the EZ before BS flags

Turner sucks .. but dialed up 91 yard TD scoring drive to start the 2nd half down double digits
That is the most frustrating thing. He can dial up some beautiful drives. But then the next drive he will revert right back to calling stupid shit.

He just can't stick with plays that we have a constant/real chance of actually running effectively. Or apparently realize when plays aren't working, such as the Samuel runs. I'm not against jet sweeps, but the Giants were locked in on him on run plays. We wasted I believe 5 plays on handing him the ball when it was clearly not working that game.

We are limited, we cannot withstand penalties or wasted plays. We have to be extremely efficient to have a chance of scoring.
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That is the most frustrating thing. He can dial up some beautiful drives. But then the next drive he will revert right back to calling stupid shit.

He just can't stick with plays that we have a constant/real chance of actually running effectively. Or apparently realize when plays aren't working, such as the Samuel runs. I'm not against jet sweeps, but the Giants were locked in on him on run plays. We wasted I believe 5 plays on handing him the ball when it was clearly not working that game.

We are limited, we cannot withstand penalties or wasted plays. We have to be extremely efficient to have a chance of scoring.
1. We do a lot of jet sweep motion looks but havent actually ran a jet sweep play in a while (where ball gets handed off to receiver in motion)

2. I dont like the idea of running Samuel on 3rd and 3 up the middle but I dont remember if we were in empty back set or not.

If its an empty back set look, not bad thinking trying to get the Giants to match your personnel, then you have 5 guys to block 4 and Samuel just needs to pick the right lane/crease.

I think Samuel made a bad decision to cut it right were there was a lane but had 2 giant defenders closing in on that gap.

I gotta see the 3rd and 3 play again.

3. I wish Turner would call more slants to Terry, more screens, more bubbles .. the quick pass play stuff that worked okay last year.

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JUST THROW TERRY FUCKING SLANTS like 5 a game

Heinike cant seem to read or trust himself on mesh concepts .. which is basic QBing 101. Got single high safety? Throw the deep ball route. Got quarters? Read and recognize and make teh quick decision to throw underneath and get 5 yards.
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1. We do a lot of jet sweep motion looks but havent actually ran a jet sweep play in a while (where ball gets handed off to receiver in motion)

2. I dont like the idea of running Samuel on 3rd and 3 up the middle but I dont remember if we were in empty back set or not.

If its an empty back set look, not bad thinking trying to get the Giants to match your personnel, then you have 5 guys to block 4 and Samuel just needs to pick the right lane/crease.

I think Samuel made a bad decision to cut it right were there was a lane but had 2 giant defenders closing in on that gap.

I gotta see the 3rd and 3 play again.

3. I wish Turner would call more slants to Terry, more screens, more bubbles .. the quick pass play stuff that worked okay last year.

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JUST THROW TERRY FUCKING SLANTS like 5 a game

Heinike cant seem to read or trust himself on mesh concepts .. which is basic QBing 101. Got single high safety? Throw the deep ball route. Got quarters? Read and recognize and make teh quick decision to throw underneath and get 5 yards.
I don't understand this either - the slant does not exist in Turner's playbook.
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Down 3-14 at half.

1st possession of second half we go 6 plays, 91 yards for a Tiddy. Score is 9-14

giants get FG on their next possession, 9-17

2nd possession - run, pass, run, punt

3rd possession - run, run, run, pass, run, pass, FG Score is 12-17

4th possession (5 plays, 77 yds gained) - pass, run, run, pass, QB fumble on NYG's 9 yard line

Giants go 9 plays, 4:11 off clock, FG score is 12-20 ...

5th possession - 2 min drive down to their goaline, B Rob actually scores then flags and then no flags

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Turner sucks ... but dialed up a must have 2 min drive to get into the EZ before BS flags

Turner sucks .. but dialed up 91 yard TD scoring drive to start the 2nd half down double digits
Agree

I kind of give turner a pass its like asking a carpenter to build a house but his tools are plastic utensils; if you are expecting a great house that carpenter better be Jesus and I am talking about the Jesus you pronounce with a J not a H.
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I dont think we need to say more....

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Brian Robinson got 4 carries in the second half of that game. Antonio Gibson had 1 second half carry.

I legit cannot decide who I want fired more Ron or Scott. Talk about a couple of losers.
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Brian Robinson got 4 carries in the second half of that game. Antonio Gibson had 1 second half carry.
That is sickening, honestly.
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That is sickening, honestly.
Scott Turner is a moron. We're limited at QB and OL. But lots of teams have weaknesses there. There isn't enough elite guys to play all of those spots. Those should be way harder to fill than a OC.

Then again Rivera is in charge of both. So maybe he's the chief moron. I won't blame him for QB, most teams are looking for the guy. But I will blame him for the OL and Turner. But Turner is still a moron.
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