Kearse a Cowgirl???

sportscurmudgeon · 03-01-2004, 11:12 PM

It is an "ethical violation" for an agent to use one player's contract as a bargaining chip for another player's contract with a team. Having said that, it happens more than once in a while.

Obviously the Skins and the Rosenhauses can work well together; that could be a big help in trying to get Kearse. But Rosenhaus was asking for a signing bonus in the $20M range and a total contract value of about $60-65M from the Titans. OK, MAYBE their release of Kearse has made him realize those numbers were high, but he is not going to have Kearse sign a deal at the numbers that were paid out to Brunell ($8.5M signing bonus and $23M).

Here is the danger in a Kearse signing. Yes, he is a dominant pass rushing DE and he may be a mainstay on a DL for the next 6-8 years. He might also have one more injury left in his leg that he can recover from and still be a dominant DE. If he signs a deal for $20M up front and then is really slowed by his next injury, the team will still have to keep him around for a while until they have amortized a big chunk of that $20M to avoid a huge amount of dead money.

Here's an example. Signing bonus is $20 and the deal is 10 years long. That means in each year, his cap number is $2M ($20M/10yrs) plus his salary for that year. After two seasons the team would have written off $4M of the signing bonus and if they trade him or release him the rest of the bonus ($16M) gets shoved into their salary cap for a year. The cap this year is $80M for the team and so $16M is 20% of the cap for the whole team.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-01-2004, 11:24 PM

Good post Sportscurm.....you know I was joking though about the quid pro quo. I do think it will help though that we just gave Portis a nice fat contract.

Ghost · 03-02-2004, 01:09 AM

If I'm Kearse and I even suspect that Rosenhaus is playing games with my money, I'm on the phone ASAP giving him his pink slip. I don't think the Portis deal will have any effect on the Kearse negotiations whatsoever.

That said, I sincerely hope the Skins pass on Kearse, who is overrated and WAY too expensive. Seems like every player in the NFL thinks he's worth $20 million these days ... even if he's practically missing half-seasons due to injury. That's like me calling in sick every few days and demanding a big raise at the end of the year. We should pick up the other DT from Tennessee plus Grant Wistrom for the same price. Kearse is a huge risk.

BrunellFan · 03-02-2004, 02:59 AM

What Danny Snyder wants... Danny Snyder gets...

at least in free agency...

and right now, im betting Danny wants to get his FREAK ON!

Skins fan 44 · 03-02-2004, 08:46 AM

I agree Grant Winstrom would work better than Kearse. Kearse is always hurt.

Mexskins · 03-02-2004, 09:04 AM

They can have The Freak. We need younger and healthier DE.

Winstrom is an excellent idea.

03-01-2004, 11:12 PM	#1
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	It is an "ethical violation" for an agent to use one player's contract as a bargaining chip for another player's contract with a team. Having said that, it happens more than once in a while. Obviously the Skins and the Rosenhauses can work well together; that could be a big help in trying to get Kearse. But Rosenhaus was asking for a signing bonus in the $20M range and a total contract value of about $60-65M from the Titans. OK, MAYBE their release of Kearse has made him realize those numbers were high, but he is not going to have Kearse sign a deal at the numbers that were paid out to Brunell ($8.5M signing bonus and $23M). Here is the danger in a Kearse signing. Yes, he is a dominant pass rushing DE and he may be a mainstay on a DL for the next 6-8 years. He might also have one more injury left in his leg that he can recover from and still be a dominant DE. If he signs a deal for $20M up front and then is really slowed by his next injury, the team will still have to keep him around for a while until they have amortized a big chunk of that $20M to avoid a huge amount of dead money. Here's an example. Signing bonus is $20 and the deal is 10 years long. That means in each year, his cap number is $2M ($20M/10yrs) plus his salary for that year. After two seasons the team would have written off $4M of the signing bonus and if they trade him or release him the rest of the bonus ($16M) gets shoved into their salary cap for a year. The cap this year is $80M for the team and so $16M is 20% of the cap for the whole team. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

03-01-2004, 11:24 PM	#2
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Good post Sportscurm.....you know I was joking though about the quid pro quo. I do think it will help though that we just gave Portis a nice fat contract.

03-02-2004, 01:09 AM	#3
Ghost Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 298	If I'm Kearse and I even suspect that Rosenhaus is playing games with my money, I'm on the phone ASAP giving him his pink slip. I don't think the Portis deal will have any effect on the Kearse negotiations whatsoever. That said, I sincerely hope the Skins pass on Kearse, who is overrated and WAY too expensive. Seems like every player in the NFL thinks he's worth $20 million these days ... even if he's practically missing half-seasons due to injury. That's like me calling in sick every few days and demanding a big raise at the end of the year. We should pick up the other DT from Tennessee plus Grant Wistrom for the same price. Kearse is a huge risk.

03-02-2004, 02:59 AM	#4
BrunellFan Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 334	What Danny Snyder wants... Danny Snyder gets... at least in free agency... and right now, im betting Danny wants to get his FREAK ON!

03-02-2004, 08:46 AM	#5
Skins fan 44 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brazil, IN Age: 54 Posts: 883	I agree Grant Winstrom would work better than Kearse. Kearse is always hurt.

03-02-2004, 09:04 AM	#6
Mexskins Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 11	They can have The Freak. We need younger and healthier DE. Winstrom is an excellent idea.

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