Draft grades

[sdskinsfan2001]

Biggest 2023 NFL draft questions for all 32 teams.

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Did the Commanders improve their offensive line?

Washington's front struggled last season, allowing the seventh-most sacks in the NFL (48). The Commanders did add two starters in free agency in center Nick Gates and tackle/guard Andrew Wylie but did not draft a player who would be projected to start in 2023. That means they still have a void at left guard. But one of their past drafts might yield the winner there -- Saahdiq Charles (fourth round, 2020) or Chris Paul (seventh round, 2022). Third-round pick Ricky Stromberg also will have a shot, but his best spot might be center. The Commanders have good talent at running back and receiver and intriguing young tight ends, but need a stronger line to protect inexperienced quarterback Sam Howell.

-- John Keim

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Biggest 2023 NFL draft questions for all 32 teams.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...s-all-32-teams

Did the Commanders improve their offensive line?

Washington's front struggled last season, allowing the seventh-most sacks in the NFL (48). The Commanders did add two starters in free agency in center Nick Gates and tackle/guard Andrew Wylie but did not draft a player who would be projected to start in 2023. That means they still have a void at left guard. But one of their past drafts might yield the winner there -- Saahdiq Charles (fourth round, 2020) or Chris Paul (seventh round, 2022). Third-round pick Ricky Stromberg also will have a shot, but his best spot might be center. The Commanders have good talent at running back and receiver and intriguing young tight ends, but need a stronger line to protect inexperienced quarterback Sam Howell.

-- John Keim

This is exactly why I gave it a C. Granted, we know nothing right now.
But what we really don't know is wether or not we improved our Oline via the draft. Neither Stromberg nor Daniels are viewed like starters by most outside of Ashburn. I hope those analysts are wrong and Ron and co are right... But even when we were supposed to get studs in Wes Martin and Saadhiq Charles... they ended up not being starting material.

I see none of you really excited about those 2 players (the way some were for Charles ie), it just makes sense because we filled a need. But did we really ? Yeah I guess Oline depth is always a need... Anyway, I'm rambling, let's hope at least one of them turns into a solid starter for us.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

This is exactly why I gave it a C. Granted, we know nothing right now.
But what we really don't know is wether or not we improved our Oline via the draft. Neither Stromberg nor Daniels are viewed like starters by most outside of Ashburn. I hope those analysts are wrong and Ron and co are right... But even when we were supposed to get studs in Wes Martin and Saadhiq Charles... they ended up not being starting material.


I see none of view really excited about those 2 players (the way some were for Charles ie), it just makes sense because we filled a need. But did we really ? Yeah I guess Oline depth is always a need... Anyway, I'm rambling, let's hope at least one of them turns into a solid starter for us.

I like both guys we drafted for the OL. But it does kind of seem like the Martin through Daniels picks (2-4) were guys that were all bumped up a round by Rivera and Co. They could be right though. Who knows. I think they're all NFL players for 5+ years, but how good they'll be, no clue.

Innocent until proven guilty. Awesome until proven a pumpkin too. So I love this whole draft as of now lol.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I like both guys we drafted for the OL. But it does kind of seem like the Martin through Daniels picks (2-4) were guys that were all bumped up a round by Rivera and Co. They could be right though. Who knows. I think they're all NFL players for 5+ years, but how good they'll be, no clue.



Innocent until proven guilty. Awesome until proven a pumpkin too. So I love this whole draft as of now lol.

Those particular players may be innocent until proven guilty, but Ron has a long ass criminal record of mis-evaluating Olinemen...

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Those particular players may be innocent until proven guilty, but Ron has a long ass criminal record of mis-evaluating Olinemen...

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Can't argue this point. He can't even properly evaluate the LB room.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

This is exactly why I gave it a C. Granted, we know nothing right now.
But what we really don't know is wether or not we improved our Oline via the draft. Neither Stromberg nor Daniels are viewed like starters by most outside of Ashburn. I hope those analysts are wrong and Ron and co are right... But even when we were supposed to get studs in Wes Martin and Saadhiq Charles... they ended up not being starting material.

I see none of view really excited about those 2 players (the way some were for Charles ie), it just makes sense because we filled a need. But did we really ? Yeah I guess Oline depth is always a need... Anyway, I'm rambling, let's hope at least one of them turns into a solid starter for us.

Agree here, good points with the Oline. Another thing is they drafted Cosmi to be a solution at Tackle while getting rid of Moses who was as fine at RT as Leno is as at LT, steady, dependable. Now Cosmi is inside playing guard, not his natural position. This is after Ron complete fucked up both guard positions last year with Turner and Norwell…old Panthers.

That’s after losing Schreff and seeing Trent out the door as well.

C

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Agree here, good points with the Oline. Another thing is they drafted Cosmi to be a solution at Tackle while getting rid of Moses who was as fine at RT as Leno is as at LT, steady, dependable. Now Cosmi is inside playing guard, not his natural position. This is after Ron complete fucked up both guard positions last year with Turner and Norwell…old Panthers.

That’s after losing Schreff and seeing Trent out the door as well.

C

Roullier is gone. Not needed with Gates and Stromberg. Use that money to sign 2 more OL.

Still lots of time to add to the OL.

But I'm higher on Paul than most. I think he's gonna be solid at LG this year.

[rocnrik]

I just hope the new owner realizes that some of the worlds greatest talent evaluators are on this site .😀

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

I just hope the new owner realizes that some of the worlds greatest talent evaluators are on this site .😀

It's hilarious. It's like everyone here watches tape on these guys while drinking grape Kool Aid.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Agree here, good points with the Oline. Another thing is they drafted Cosmi to be a solution at Tackle while getting rid of Moses who was as fine at RT as Leno is as at LT, steady, dependable. Now Cosmi is inside playing guard, not his natural position. This is after Ron complete fucked up both guard positions last year with Turner and Norwell…old Panthers.



That’s after losing Schreff and seeing Trent out the door as well.



C

Don't forget Ereck Flowers in there. The fact he's out of the league because he and his agent think he deserves more $ than he actually does, does not erase the fact he was playing well for us at LG. Way better than Norwell anyway.

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[nonniey]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Biggest 2023 NFL draft questions for all 32 teams.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...s-all-32-teams

Did the Commanders improve their offensive line?

Washington's front struggled last season, allowing the seventh-most sacks in the NFL (48). The Commanders did add two starters in free agency in center Nick Gates and tackle/guard Andrew Wylie but did not draft a player who would be projected to start in 2023. That means they still have a void at left guard. But one of their past drafts might yield the winner there -- Saahdiq Charles (fourth round, 2020) or Chris Paul (seventh round, 2022). Third-round pick Ricky Stromberg also will have a shot, but his best spot might be center. The Commanders have good talent at running back and receiver and intriguing young tight ends, but need a stronger line to protect inexperienced quarterback Sam Howell.

-- John Keim

Wow, if they are saying Gates is a starter then the team is screwed.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Wow, if they are saying Gates is a starter then the team is screwed.

Starting a rookie center with a 2nd year QB sounds like a bad idea. Gates is definitely looking like the starter to begin the season.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by MTK

Starting a rookie center with a 2nd year QB sounds like a bad idea. Gates is definitely looking like the starter to begin the season.

I think the idea was to have a vet to back up Roullier if and when he gets hurt again. Risky given Roulier's injury history but Gates isn't starter material.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by nonniey

I think the idea was to have a vet to back up Roullier if and when he gets hurt again. Risky given Roulier's injury history but Gates isn't starter material.

Good chance Roullier ends up getting cut.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by MTK

Good chance Roullier ends up getting cut.

Yep. I know and for good reaso. Problem is still that Gates isn't starter material.