The EB Effect

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'm still in the camp of let's pump the brakes on Howell just a bit. Let's see how things go once teams have some tape on him and this EB offense. There's a lot to like from him so far, his poise, his arm, etc. But let's not get too crazy yet.

I agree with this statement. But at the same time, the fact that Heinicke had to go and tell Rivera he should start Howell in the last and meaningless game of the season told me they didn't have a lot of confidence in Sam, which wasn't very encouraging. So what he's shown so far comes as a nice surprise to me, so I do feel some sort of excitement, to the extent of "he may be better than expected".

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I agree with this statement. But at the same time, the fact that Heinicke had to go and tell Rivera he should start Howell in the last and meaningless game of the season told me they didn't have a lot of confidence in Sam, which wasn't very encouraging. So what he's shown so far comes as a nice surprise to me, so I do feel some sort of excitement, to the extent of "he may be better than expected".

I don't think it was a lack of confidence in Sam. My read on that was that Ron is completely clueless on how to manage the QB position. Or he may simply have forgotten that his team had been eliminated from the playoffs the week before. Certainly, most of us must have seen that Ron was reality challenged to have started "Wince" Wentz against Cleveland. Ron is an admirable man but I don't believe that he has the awareness and judgement as a HC to lead this team to a championship.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I don't think it was a lack of confidence in Sam. My read on that was that Ron is completely clueless on how to manage the QB position. Or he may simply have forgotten that his team had been eliminated from the playoffs the week before. Certainly, most of us must have seen that Ron was reality challenged to have started "Wince" Wentz against Cleveland. Ron is an admirable man but I don't believe that he has the awareness and judgement as a HC to lead this team to a championship.

Could not agree more with this. Great guy from all accounts, but not a great HC.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I don't think it was a lack of confidence in Sam. My read on that was that Ron is completely clueless on how to manage the QB position. Or he may simply have forgotten that his team had been eliminated from the playoffs the week before. Certainly, most of us must have seen that Ron was reality challenged to have started "Wince" Wentz against Cleveland. Ron is an admirable man but I don't believe that he has the awareness and judgement as a HC to lead this team to a championship.

My understanding that the Wentz acquisition was influenced by Snyder. And it would not surprise me if the Cleveland decision was influenced by Snyder.

If you listen to Keim, the coaching staff always thought Sam had a promising future, but felt he needed to develop. Also, if Ron didn't believe in Sam, he would not have bet his job security this upcoming season and name him starting QB.

While he definitely has his faults, I'm willing to give Ron a clean slate and see how he does without Snyder meddling with the team. If Snyder was actively bleeding this team for money, you can bet he was back to his old ways of meddling with football decisions.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I don't think it was a lack of confidence in Sam. My read on that was that Ron is completely clueless on how to manage the QB position. Or he may simply have forgotten that his team had been eliminated from the playoffs the week before. Certainly, most of us must have seen that Ron was reality challenged to have started "Wince" Wentz against Cleveland. Ron is an admirable man but I don't believe that he has the awareness and judgement as a HC to lead this team to a championship.

I agree with your assessment on Ron. But if they were loving what they were seeing in practice last year, wouldn't have they given Howell a shot earlier given the level of QB play we had ?
Anyway, they trust him know and that's what matters, I was just trying to say what we've seen in pre-season from Sam is a nice surprise to some extent because of this.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I don't think it was a lack of confidence in Sam. My read on that was that Ron is completely clueless on how to manage the QB position. Or he may simply have forgotten that his team had been eliminated from the playoffs the week before. Certainly, most of us must have seen that Ron was reality challenged to have started "Wince" Wentz against Cleveland. Ron is an admirable man but I don't believe that he has the awareness and judgement as a HC to lead this team to a championship.

Before he went out and got Wentz he was asking Joe Gibbs what kind of QB they scouted back in the 80's.. I knew right there that he didn't know wtf he was doing when it came to QB's. Joe liked big strong pure pocket guys but the league has totally changed. Those kind of guys will be dead in a few years. Everyone is drafting guys that can run. Having one of the best athletes at the QB position is where the league is going- so when he got Wentz I just knew that was going to fail. Once Wentz lost his mobility he was done as a QB. Wentz wasn't good enough to just sit back and beat you throwing.