Cards post game

[SFREDSKIN]

If some are not convinced with Howell. Would you rather have Cousins, Wentz or Heinecken? None of them, rather have SH. He will prove it the more he plays.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If some are not convinced with Howell. Would you rather have Cousins, Wentz or Heinecken? None of them, rather have SH. He will prove it the more he plays.

He’s a playmaker and a kid that will get better with reps. His arm talent is better than anyone we’ve had since RG3.

Cousins is a damn good QB tho so can’t hate him too much lol


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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If some are not convinced with Howell. Would you rather have Cousins, Wentz or Heinecken? None of them, rather have SH. He will prove it the more he plays.

Yeah I would take Kirk right now over Sam because Kirk is a better QB. We are one game in and he was shaky at best. Long long way to go, this is his first year starting but he's got a lot to clean up. He almost threw a pick 6 which would have been a back breaker. The fumble was all on him too. The line, EB and Sam have a long way to go.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yeah I would take Kirk right now over Sam because Kirk is a better QB. We are one game in and he was shaky at best. Long long way to go, this is his first year starting but he's got a lot to clean up. He almost threw a pick 6 which would have been a back breaker. The fumble was all on him too. The line, EB and Sam have a long way to go.

Sam made mistakes but he was able to overcome them. Hopefully he, EB, and the line can grow from this game. But at the end of the day, they won the game, and that's what important.

As with last year's opening week, there were a lot of "bad" teams that came to play and some of them won.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Sam made mistakes but he was able to overcome them. Hopefully he, EB, and the line can grow from this game. But at the end of the day, they won the game, and that's what important.

As with last year's opening week, there were a lot of "bad" teams that came to play and some of them won.

I would say that the reason all the mistakes were overcame was cause the Cards didn't have a NFL offense. I was thinking that we would blow this team out. The best part of the game was the crowd. That was great to see.

[rocnrik]

We all said wouldn’t it be nice if we had a QB with Taylor’s heart and determination but with a real NFL arm … that’s exactly what we have in Sam ..
My takeaways from game ..

The Cards are NOT the worse team in league ..
We are a work in progress ( but we knew that going in)..
Gibson fumbles are maddening..
With this Oline I expect Sam will have more strip sack fumbles ..
I would trade Young if we could and go after legit Oline help … we can’t pay all those Dline…
The Refs are horrible and if there is a word more horrible they are it… they ruin the game ..

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

We all said wouldn’t it be nice if we had a QB with Taylor’s heart and determination but with a real NFL arm … that’s exactly what we have in Sam ..
My takeaways from game ..

The Cards are NOT the worse team in league ..
We are a work in progress ( but we knew that going in)..
Gibson fumbles are maddening..
With this Oline I expect Sam will have more strip sack fumbles ..
I would trade Young if we could and go after legit Oline help … we can’t pay all those Dline…
The Refs are horrible and if there is a word more horrible they are it… they ruin the game ..

Yes, we can pay Sweat and Young. Have you seen the number of players the 49ers are paying? Next year you cut, Leno, Thomas, Samuel, Fuller (that's a chunk of change).

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yes, we can pay Sweat and Young. Have you seen the number of players the 49ers are paying? Next year you cut, Leno, Thomas, Samuel, Fuller (that's a chunk of change).

Well Fuller and Samuel are free agents next year, so no savings to be had. They have huge amounts of cap next year so no need to cut players for cap space, cut them based on performance not cap hit. Drafting OL and TE 1st and 2nd respectively would seem to be the best scenario. But if they don't improve this year there will be a clearout and every position is up for grabs. If Ron is still here he will pick a DL and a project LB.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If some are not convinced with Howell. Would you rather have Cousins, Wentz or Heinecken? None of them, rather have SH. He will prove it the more he plays.

Cousins? Was he on your mind and you accidently typed his name? If not yeah of course I'd rather have Cousins anyone would.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Cousins? Was he on your mind and you accidently typed his name? If not yeah of course I'd rather have Cousins anyone would.

Let’s clarify this. How did Cousins look his 1st year vs Howell? SH will be a much better QB than Cousins and it won’t take long.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Let’s clarify this. How did Cousins look his 1st year vs Howell? SH will be a much better QB than Cousins and it won’t take long.

Kirk had some huge games early in his career. People forget that and only remember the picks. There was plenty of positives early w/ Kirk that you could see he was going to be a good NFL starter. I think Sam has the potential and he certainly has the weapons around him. But Ron has failed him with the line. A young QB must be protected. This line is garbage.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Let’s clarify this. How did Cousins look his 1st year vs Howell? SH will be a much better QB than Cousins and it won’t take long.

Cousins couldn't outplay Baker Mayfield today, even though he has the best WR in football; yeah he threw for 300 yds, but had a pick, two lost fumbles, and no TDs. I really wish fans of this team would stop pining over him.

Moving on from that, I had higher expectations of EBs playcalling, but he needs to adjust better and help Howell. I do think the AZ d-line is underrated though, but yeah, this o-line needs work.

Sam can't be throwing the ball 30 times. Run game needs to be better period. Also, I'm really getting sick of Gibson and his redzone fumbles. We probably would have gone up at least 10-6 if it wasn't for him early on.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Cousins couldn't outplay Baker Mayfield today, even though he has the best WR in football; yeah he threw for 300 yds, but had a pick, two lost fumbles, and no TDs. I really wish fans of this team would stop pining over him.

Moving on from that, I had higher expectations of EBs playcalling, but he needs to adjust better and help Howell. I do think the AZ d-line is underrated though, but yeah, this o-line needs work.

Sam can't be throwing the ball 30 times. Run game needs to be better period. Also, I'm really getting sick of Gibson and his redzone fumbles. We probably would have gone up at least 10-6 if it wasn't for him early on.

lol.. I think the overall body of work speaks for itself.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Cousins couldn't outplay Baker Mayfield today, even though he has the best WR in football; yeah he threw for 300 yds, but had a pick, two lost fumbles, and no TDs. I really wish fans of this team would stop pining over him.

Moving on from that, I had higher expectations of EBs playcalling, but he needs to adjust better and help Howell. I do think the AZ d-line is underrated though, but yeah, this o-line needs work.

Sam can't be throwing the ball 30 times. Run game needs to be better period. Also, I'm really getting sick of Gibson and his redzone fumbles. We probably would have gone up at least 10-6 if it wasn't for him early on.

So the guy who threw for 344 played worse than the guy who threw for 173?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

So the guy who threw for 344 played worse than the guy who threw for 173?

Actually, let me eat crow, because I obviously can't f*cking read stats. Kirk threw more than double the yards than Baker, score as many TDs as him, but had 1 INT and two lost fumbles.