2024 Early Bird Draft Thread

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by mooby

It's not about filling holes my guy - it's about drafting players you think will succeed in the NFL. Just because we have a hole at any certain position doesn't mean there will be that guy in the draft who can successfully plug that hole. Some years are just bad for certain players. Other years are strong in certain players. You gotta pick the guys you think will make it.

I can draft 5 great QBs but if i have no OL then they are useless; its absolutely about drafting folks who can succeed in the NFL in the positions you need help in thus filling holes in your roster

by your methodology with the number two pick we should pick Harrison Jr; he probably has the highest percent of potential success in the nfl but it sure look silly picking him with our current WRs and QBs on the roster and you have 2 out of 3 high ranked QBs still on the board

i guess it have to come down to who is on the board in late rounds; if there is a OL guy who can help us this year i take him over a developmental QB project

how many teams draft multiply QBs in the same draft? very few off the top of my head

[mooby]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I can draft 5 great QBs but if i have no OL then they are useless; its absolutely about drafting folks who can succeed in the NFL in the positions you need help in thus filling holes in your roster

by your methodology with the number two pick we should pick Harrison Jr; he probably has the highest percent of potential success in the nfl but it sure look silly picking him with our current WRs and QBs on the roster and you have 2 out of 3 high ranked QBs still on the board

i guess it have to come down to who is on the board in late rounds; if there is a OL guy who can help us this year i take him over a developmental QB project

how many teams draft multiply QBs in the same draft? very few off the top of my head

This is where your scouting comes in. If our scouting and Peters ranked them like this:

Williams - worthy of the first overall pick
Harrison Jr - top five pick
Maye/Daniels - 1st round grade but not top 5

Then yes their options would be draft the guy they like (Harrison Jr) or trade down and hope they can grab the guy they want later (assuming they don't have top five grades on Maye/Daniels). Because QB is head and shoulders the most important position it's more likely they would draft down if Williams wasn't available. But that all depends on their draft grades.

My draft grades (which mean absolute jack shit because I only watch college football highlights) - I like Maye/Daniels. But that doesn't mean they do. I just watch draft analysis from other people and according to people in the know Daniels is the better prospect but his weight is a red flag. Maye is better physically but his arm talent isn't as good as Daniels. So the question is do they draft the guy with the physical attributes or do they draft the good football player with red flags phsyically? Both have question marks.

Back end of the draft is less critical - you have no idea who's available until the clock is running so just draft the guy you like.

Just to add - Ron's fatal flaw was his staff and scouting. If they had done their jobs right they would've realized Haskins was a wasted pick and drafted Herbert instead of CY. That decision set the franchise back 4 years. If they drafted Herbert and developed him we could still be looking at Snyder ownership and Rivera HC'ing. Instead they fucked it up so bad everyone involved is gone and we have Harris/Peters running the show . Snyder pulling strings and drafting Haskins set this entire thing in motion.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by mooby

This is where your scouting comes in. If our scouting and Peters ranked them like this:

Williams - worthy of the first overall pick
Harrison Jr - top five pick
Maye/Daniels - 1st round grade but not top 5

Then yes their options would be draft the guy they like (Harrison Jr) or trade down and hope they can grab the guy they want later (assuming they don't have top five grades on Maye/Daniels). Because QB is head and shoulders the most important position it's more likely they would draft down if Williams wasn't available. But that all depends on their draft grades.

My draft grades (which mean absolute jack shit because I only watch college football highlights) - I like Maye/Daniels. But that doesn't mean they do. I just watch draft analysis from other people and according to people in the know Daniels is the better prospect but his weight is a red flag. Maye is better physically but his arm talent isn't as good as Daniels. So the question is do they draft the guy with the physical attributes or do they draft the good football player with red flags phsyically? Both have question marks.

Back end of the draft is less critical - you have no idea who's available until the clock is running so just draft the guy you like.

Just to add - Ron's fatal flaw was his staff and scouting. If they had done their jobs right they would've realized Haskins was a wasted pick and drafted Herbert instead of CY. That decision set the franchise back 4 years. If they drafted Herbert and developed him we could still be looking at Snyder ownership and Rivera HC'ing. Instead they fucked it up so bad everyone involved is gone and we have Harris/Peters running the show . Snyder pulling strings and drafting Haskins set this entire thing in motion.

Ron Rivera was incompetent. He made Joe Biden look sharp in comparison. For goodness sakes, he was even totally clueless about using time outs and when to throw the challenge flag. Half the time, when he finally realized he should throw the red flag he forgot where he had put it. So how was he supposed to manage a draft? Not that Snyder would have allowed Rivera or anyone other than himself to pick a QB.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Ron Rivera was incompetent. He made Joe Biden look sharp in comparison. For goodness sakes, he was even totally clueless about using time outs and when to throw the challenge flag. Half the time, when he finally realized he should throw the red flag he forgot where he had put it. So how was he supposed to manage a draft? Not that Snyder would have allowed Rivera or anyone other than himself to pick a QB.

To be fair he did have cancer his first year. Unless anyone here has dealt with it it's hard to say how it affected him personally.

I think Ron is a respectable person, just a bad coach. I'm hard pressed to believe anyone would have success here no matter how good they were - Snyder picked every type of coach you can pick and every single one failed. That's his lasting legacy.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Ron Rivera was incompetent. He made Joe Biden look sharp in comparison. For goodness sakes, he was even totally clueless about using time outs and when to throw the challenge flag. Half the time, when he finally realized he should throw the red flag he forgot where he had put it. So how was he supposed to manage a draft? Not that Snyder would have allowed Rivera or anyone other than himself to pick a QB.

If you’re gonna talk about politicians with deranged and delusional minds can we keep it honest and talk about the other guy.

Also there is no mention of politicians in any football related thread.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

If you’re gonna talk about politicians with deranged and delusional minds can we keep it honest and talk about the other guy.

Also there is no mention of politicians in any football related thread.

Beat me to it.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

If you’re gonna talk about politicians with deranged and delusional minds can we keep it honest and talk about the other guy.

Also there is no mention of politicians in any football related thread.

Thank you!

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

If you’re gonna talk about politicians with deranged and delusional minds can we keep it honest and talk about the other guy.

Also there is no mention of politicians in any football related thread.

I promise to keep all politics out of my future posts.