What will Wednesday be like?

Ghost · 03-02-2004, 01:22 AM

I'd like to see Snyder sit back, wait to see how the market shapes out and, for once, not act like an overeager child collecting baseball cards. I'd like to see him NOT overpay for once. I'd like him to show some patience, just relax and watch the big name players like Kearse and Sapp and T.O. go to other teams at inflated prices, and then go after "good value" free agents, like the smart teams do (i.e., Patriots). And I'd like to see them pick up some draft picks somehow. If they rush out and lock up Kearse and Sapp for 8 years and $20 million each, I'll be pissed and demoralized, and the pundits will say, "There the Redskins go again ... when will they learn?"

MTK · 03-02-2004, 09:24 AM

Nice thoughts Ghost but I think Snyder will always be a very aggressive owner. He likes to set the market, he doesn't want to sit back and let the market dictate what he does.

Fire up Redskins One, I'm sure March 3 is going to be a replay of last year.

Skins fan 44 · 03-02-2004, 09:32 AM

It is good to be agressive and get what you early but you also have to be patient and not overspend early. But heck it is not my football team. I am sure we will get some big names. I would also like to get for them to take a chance on one that are about to become big time players in a season or two.

dieselhog · 03-02-2004, 09:41 AM

Kearse, Springs and Coleman will all be tied up within a day (I think) and possibly Phil Daniels. They may even give Mo Lewis a look on a short term deal (but I hope not).

Gmanc711 · 03-02-2004, 09:53 AM

Now, I really hate to give this guy the time of day again... but has anyone read the latest instalment of Lenny P's article over at ESPN.com. I mean this thing is just undefendable, in any way shape or form.

"In all likelihood sometime late Tuesday night, before free agency commences Wednesday at 12:01 a.m., Snyder's private jet will embark, on its way to ferry unfettered veterans to the Redskins complex for a quick strike. Snyder, you see, likes to pamper prospects with the private jet, Redskins One, to make them feel extra special. He likes to do something with agents, too -- uh, it rhymes with pamper, and is supposed to be forbidden by the NFL -- to alert them in advance of his interest in their clients.

Make no mistake, when it comes to pushing the envelope on tampering, Snyder is like a safecracker with big, um, fortitude. All the meal tabs he picked up at Indianapolis during the recent combine, when he dined with a cadre of agents at some of that city's excellent downtown eateries, represented more than just altruism and a taste for big steaks"

Yea, if its forbidden by the NFL, then why hasent the NFL found out about it and done somthing?!?! You must have a secret bug down at redskins park that leaks you all this information. In addition, since when do you use the word " um " In the english language, it makes you look retarded, no one has to know that you dont know what the hell your talking about, so dont use um. I mean seriously, go read this article, him and Jenkins must be married or somthing, I cant wait to see the ugly, mindless journalist those two pop out. Maybe Len should stop worrying about the Redskins and find a few mintues to get on a stairmaster.

beg8878 · 03-02-2004, 10:24 AM

I read it, but you know what, aside for the tampering shot, everything else is pretty accurate. We do go overboard and make the big splash. Every off season we sign the names and say how this is the team that will bring us a title and it has failed on numerous occasions. Journalist like Lenny P will continue to criticize and deservingly so until we put a winning team on the field.

sportscurmudgeon · 03-02-2004, 12:06 PM

Just in case someone wants to spend the time and energy to do this, it is perfectly possible to find out just where Redskins One is headed tonight or tomorrow morning. You see, the pilot is required to file a flight plan with the FAA and that is public domain information.

Oh, if the pilot "accidentally" listed the wrong destination, he could face revocation of his license and the plane could be grounded pending an investigation, so that's not likely. Danny Boy needs Redskins One at this time of year.

You can - if you want - know where Danny Boy is going. Then you need to figure out who will be in the same vicinity...

No, I don't care enough to do the work here, but it isn't really such a great mystery. One of these years, one of the writers who purports to be an "NFL insider" will do the work and make the prediction just before "wheels up"...

BossHog · 03-02-2004, 12:50 PM

We have a reputation for outbidding ourselves.

sportscurmudgeon · 03-02-2004, 07:48 PM

Matty:

There are no "flight numbers" because this is a privately owned plane and not a scheduled airline.

Flight plans are filed with the tail number of the aircraft and the make and model of the plane; that is sort of like its permanent license plate. The registrations for planes that list ownership - past and current - are also public domain information if someone wants to go look for it.

So if you find out that the tail number for Redskins One is "ABC-123" then all you have to search for is the filed flight plan for "ABC-123". You don't need the FBI and the CIA working overtime here...

Before you ask, yes, I used to fly small aircraft. I haven't done that for a while now.

Redskins8588 · 03-02-2004, 08:22 PM

Yeah Lenny P. gives Snyder alot of heat but atleast Snyder is trying to get winning team. There are 8 teams in the NFL that are under the cap by atleast $14million and there owners do nothing. I agree that Snyder does go crazy this time of year, but he does give us HOPE every season that this could be the year. As for me I like the feeling that the owner of my favorite team is not affraid to make mistakes, but also that after this week the HOPE for a better season is renewed again.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-02-2004, 08:25 PM

Anybody got the tail number of Redskins One?

azskinsfan2 · 03-02-2004, 08:29 PM

At least it sounds like Danny is only going after players to fill positions that we need (please no Sapp). With giving up our number to for Portis we don't have much choice in the draft, even if we trade down we'll only get one extra pick probably so we have to get what we want in FA. At least we locked up Brunnell before Garcia got dumped by San Fran. I'd rather have Brunnell any day.

Ghost · 03-02-2004, 09:41 PM

Tracking Snyder's jet via the FAA ... you guys are hilarious. Has anyone actually looked into this?

03-02-2004, 01:22 AM	#1
Ghost Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 298	I'd like to see Snyder sit back, wait to see how the market shapes out and, for once, not act like an overeager child collecting baseball cards. I'd like to see him NOT overpay for once. I'd like him to show some patience, just relax and watch the big name players like Kearse and Sapp and T.O. go to other teams at inflated prices, and then go after "good value" free agents, like the smart teams do (i.e., Patriots). And I'd like to see them pick up some draft picks somehow. If they rush out and lock up Kearse and Sapp for 8 years and $20 million each, I'll be pissed and demoralized, and the pundits will say, "There the Redskins go again ... when will they learn?" Last edited by Ghost; 03-02-2004 at 01:25 AM.

03-02-2004, 09:53 AM	#5
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Lenny's Article Now, I really hate to give this guy the time of day again... but has anyone read the latest instalment of Lenny P's article over at ESPN.com. I mean this thing is just undefendable, in any way shape or form. "In all likelihood sometime late Tuesday night, before free agency commences Wednesday at 12:01 a.m., Snyder's private jet will embark, on its way to ferry unfettered veterans to the Redskins complex for a quick strike. Snyder, you see, likes to pamper prospects with the private jet, Redskins One, to make them feel extra special. He likes to do something with agents, too -- uh, it rhymes with pamper, and is supposed to be forbidden by the NFL -- to alert them in advance of his interest in their clients. Make no mistake, when it comes to pushing the envelope on tampering, Snyder is like a safecracker with big, um, fortitude. All the meal tabs he picked up at Indianapolis during the recent combine, when he dined with a cadre of agents at some of that city's excellent downtown eateries, represented more than just altruism and a taste for big steaks" Yea, if its forbidden by the NFL, then why hasent the NFL found out about it and done somthing?!?! You must have a secret bug down at redskins park that leaks you all this information. In addition, since when do you use the word " um " In the english language, it makes you look retarded, no one has to know that you dont know what the hell your talking about, so dont use um. I mean seriously, go read this article, him and Jenkins must be married or somthing, I cant wait to see the ugly, mindless journalist those two pop out. Maybe Len should stop worrying about the Redskins and find a few mintues to get on a stairmaster. __________________ #21

03-02-2004, 12:06 PM	#7
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Just in case someone wants to spend the time and energy to do this, it is perfectly possible to find out just where Redskins One is headed tonight or tomorrow morning. You see, the pilot is required to file a flight plan with the FAA and that is public domain information. Oh, if the pilot "accidentally" listed the wrong destination, he could face revocation of his license and the plane could be grounded pending an investigation, so that's not likely. Danny Boy needs Redskins One at this time of year. You can - if you want - know where Danny Boy is going. Then you need to figure out who will be in the same vicinity... No, I don't care enough to do the work here, but it isn't really such a great mystery. One of these years, one of the writers who purports to be an "NFL insider" will do the work and make the prediction just before "wheels up"... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

03-02-2004, 07:48 PM	#9
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Matty: There are no "flight numbers" because this is a privately owned plane and not a scheduled airline. Flight plans are filed with the tail number of the aircraft and the make and model of the plane; that is sort of like its permanent license plate. The registrations for planes that list ownership - past and current - are also public domain information if someone wants to go look for it. So if you find out that the tail number for Redskins One is "ABC-123" then all you have to search for is the filed flight plan for "ABC-123". You don't need the FBI and the CIA working overtime here... Before you ask, yes, I used to fly small aircraft. I haven't done that for a while now. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

03-02-2004, 08:29 PM	#12
azskinsfan2 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tucson, Arizona Age: 68 Posts: 232	At least it sounds like Danny is only going after players to fill positions that we need (please no Sapp). With giving up our number to for Portis we don't have much choice in the draft, even if we trade down we'll only get one extra pick probably so we have to get what we want in FA. At least we locked up Brunnell before Garcia got dumped by San Fran. I'd rather have Brunnell any day. __________________ Long live Sonny J!!! Rock on Redskins!!!!!!

03-02-2004, 09:24 AM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Nice thoughts Ghost but I think Snyder will always be a very aggressive owner. He likes to set the market, he doesn't want to sit back and let the market dictate what he does. Fire up Redskins One, I'm sure March 3 is going to be a replay of last year.

03-02-2004, 09:32 AM	#3
Skins fan 44 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brazil, IN Age: 54 Posts: 883	It is good to be agressive and get what you early but you also have to be patient and not overspend early. But heck it is not my football team. I am sure we will get some big names. I would also like to get for them to take a chance on one that are about to become big time players in a season or two.

03-02-2004, 09:41 AM	#4
dieselhog Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bolton, Lancashire Age: 53 Posts: 166	Kearse, Springs and Coleman will all be tied up within a day (I think) and possibly Phil Daniels. They may even give Mo Lewis a look on a short term deal (but I hope not).

03-02-2004, 10:24 AM	#6
beg8878 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 47 Posts: 270	I read it, but you know what, aside for the tampering shot, everything else is pretty accurate. We do go overboard and make the big splash. Every off season we sign the names and say how this is the team that will bring us a title and it has failed on numerous occasions. Journalist like Lenny P will continue to criticize and deservingly so until we put a winning team on the field.

03-02-2004, 12:50 PM	#8
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	We have a reputation for outbidding ourselves.

03-02-2004, 08:22 PM	#10
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	Yeah Lenny P. gives Snyder alot of heat but atleast Snyder is trying to get winning team. There are 8 teams in the NFL that are under the cap by atleast $14million and there owners do nothing. I agree that Snyder does go crazy this time of year, but he does give us HOPE every season that this could be the year. As for me I like the feeling that the owner of my favorite team is not affraid to make mistakes, but also that after this week the HOPE for a better season is renewed again.

03-02-2004, 08:25 PM	#11
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Anybody got the tail number of Redskins One?

03-02-2004, 09:41 PM	#13
Ghost Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 298	Tracking Snyder's jet via the FAA ... you guys are hilarious. Has anyone actually looked into this?

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