Will Saunders Affect Our QB Situation?

[offiss]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

First thing, it is not Musgraves offense. Its Joe Gibbs offense, Musgrave was brounght in to work w/ Brunell and maybe give a suggestion on two. This signing is a great thing, this guys offense has never been out of the top 5 since 99. It would be nice for Ramsey to actually get a shot to play for this guy. Ramsey loves to attack down field and this guy does that. Portis should benefit greatly from more zone and stretch plays, more screens also. I personally cant wait until next september when we start whipping some ass.

Actually it's nobody's offense right now, and we defiently took a turn towards the west coast offense around the 4th or 5th game because of the futility on offense, and that was Musgraves influence, Gibbs was probably calling most of the play's, but theres a reason Saunders is being brought in, and it's not because everyone is trying to take credit for our offensive output this past season.

[Paintrain]

Ramsey is as good as gone.. Regardless of the play caller, the bottom line is the coaching staff doesn't have confidence in him (see trade for Brunell, 3 picks traded for Campbell, 70% Brunell playing vs. 100% Ramsey in the Eagles game and playoffs) the addition of a coach from the outside isn't going to change that..

That being said, I expect Brunell to be the starter going into the season but at the first sign of injury I think Campbell will be put in with the expectation that it's his job to lose at that point. He will probably start 1-2 pre season games as well to get some live time with the starters but Saunders offense doesn't seem to put too much on the QB as far as decision making, plus he doesn't let his QBs audible.. Wasn't he the offensive coordinator when Kurt Warner came out of nowhere to win the MVP award and the Rams won the Super Bowl?

[gortiz]

What will be the learning curve for an Al Saunders offense? Do you guys think we will be hitting on all cylinders come the first game. I know he installs a ton of motion, more than us, so I wonder if shouldn't expect that big of change this first year coming up under him ... especially if Campbell ends up starting ...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by gortiz

What will be the learning curve for an Al Saunders offense? Do you guys think we will be hitting on all cylinders come the first game. I know he installs a ton of motion, more than us, so I wonder if shouldn't expect that big of change this first year coming up under him ... especially if Campbell ends up starting ...

From the Times:

It's unclear how much the Redskins' playbook will change with the arrival of Saunders.

"It won't happen overnight because it's a very complicated offense," the source said. "But when it does come together, it's going to be awesome. Redskins fans are going to love this guy. They're going to love this offense."

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by offiss

Actually it's nobody's offense right now, and we defiently took a turn towards the west coast offense around the 4th or 5th game because of the futility on offense, and that was Musgraves influence, Gibbs was probably calling most of the play's, but theres a reason Saunders is being brought in, and it's not because everyone is trying to take credit for our offensive output this past season.

No way did we run any resimblence to a west coast offense. 50 gut and diesel 40 gut all that crap is not west coast. We ran no quick slants, drags anything like that. The screens are part of every NFL offense. I just dont see where you get we ran any thing resembling west coast offense. but that doesn't matter, Gibbs and Saunders learned from each other so they are going to be on the same page.

[SmootSmack]

Just for the hell of it, here are Brady and Brunell's stats versus comparable opponents this year.

Tom Brady

SD (L 17-41) 19-32, 224 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 78.1 rating
DEN (L 20-28) 24-26. 299 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 79.9 rating
KC (L 16-26) 22-40, 248 yards, 1 TD, 4 INTs, 42.5 rating
TB (W 28-0) 20-31, 258 yards, 3 TDs,0 INT, 122.8 rating

Mark Brunell

SD (L 17-23) 17-27, 194 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 1 Fumble, 96.8 rating
Den (L 19-21) 30-53, 322 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 1 Fumble, 87.1 rating
KC (L 21-28) 25-41, 331 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 2 Fumble, 110,9 rating
TB (L 35-36) 23-35, 155 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INT, 2 FUmbles, 79.0 rating

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Just for the hell of it, here are Brady and Brunell's stats versus comparable opponents this year.

Tom Brady

SD (L 17-41) 19-32, 224 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 78.1 rating
DEN (L 20-28) 24-26. 299 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 79.9 rating
KC (L 16-26) 22-40, 248 yards, 1 TD, 4 INTs, 42.5 rating
TB (W 28-0) 20-31, 258 yards, 3 TDs,0 INT, 122.8 rating

Mark Brunell

SD (L 17-23) 17-27, 194 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 1 Fumble, 96.8 rating
Den (L 19-21) 30-53, 322 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 1 Fumble, 87.1 rating
KC (L 21-28) 25-41, 331 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 2 Fumble, 110,9 rating
TB (L 35-36) 23-35, 155 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INT, 2 FUmbles, 79.0 rating

Well, I'm sure there's some perfectly good explanation as to why Brunell has a higher rating than Brady against comparable oppenents.

Oh wait, Brady's numbers are supressed because he has his team on his back, and Brunells' aren't because he has mule pulling him.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by offiss

Actually it's nobody's offense right now, and we defiently took a turn towards the west coast offense around the 4th or 5th game because of the futility on offense, and that was Musgraves influence, Gibbs was probably calling most of the play's, but theres a reason Saunders is being brought in, and it's not because everyone is trying to take credit for our offensive output this past season.

What are you talking about. We have never, oh wait a minute, yeah we did run the west coast offense, when R. Pettibone coached, and how many games did we win that year? This in no way resembles a west coast offense. Did we run quick slants, drags, draws, hardly ever. Just because we run them once in a while doesn't constitute a west coast offense. Besides the fact, west coast generally throws the ball a whole hell of alot more than we did. We ran the ball over 50% of the time, especially in the last 5 or 6 weeks. Brunell throwing for under 100 yards a game for 2 or 3 games, hardly says we are running a west coast offense. Hell, sorry Joey Harrington ran that style and he still threw for 200+ and how horrible is he. Brunell would throw for 3500+ if that was the case.