Does Ramsey Have Some Trade Control?

[Huddle]

Pasquarelli's on-topic article 2/26 2:10 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2345822

[Hail2em]

ets | Team still trying to trade for Ramsey
Sun, 26 Feb 2006 06:56:59 -0800

The New York Daily News reports the New York Jets are still working on a trade with the Washington Redskins for QB Patrick Ramsey.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

There are reports that Vince Young scored a 6. I don't think it means much though. I'm sure Pete Carrol would score a lot higher than 6, but he couldn't figure out a way to stop Vince. "Stupid is as stupid does".

Also Jason Campbell doubled his score from 14 his junior year to 28 his senior year. There's not supposed to be that sort of variation in the results. It renders the test suspect as a reliable indicator of intelligence.

On a completely unrelated topic, Dat Nguyen has retired after seven years with Dallas.

The first score is usually the most telling, an individual can actually memorize the test or there abouts and increase his score which really doesn't say much for the test the second go round.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Huddle

Pasquarelli's on-topic article 2/26 2:10 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2345822

It will probably happen, but unfortunatly Gibbs did nothing but tare down Ramseys value, I do think he would be much better suited in Miami though.

[bigm29]

All i know is tim hasselback is a free agent and hes coming back to be our 3rd stringer baby!

[freddyg12]

I've often wondered how effective all the tests, iq & otherwise, are. e.g., a qb has to not only see the field w/great peripheral vision, but also have the timeliness thru quick reflexes to do so before his ass is horizontal.
I think Ramsey is bright enough for the job, but is slow in all the decision making skills necessary, which ultimatley have little to do w/i.q. & general cognitive aptitude.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by bigm29

All i know is tim hasselback is a free agent and hes coming back to be our 3rd stringer baby!

he's a good #3...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by offiss

The first score is usually the most telling, an individual can actually memorize the test or there abouts and increase his score which really doesn't say much for the test the second go round.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't give the same exact test twice.

It's like any standardized test, you can learn techniques to take the test more effectively, so that's why guys will typically do better the 2nd time around.

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't give the same exact test twice.

It's like any standardized test, you can learn techniques to take the test more effectively, so that's why guys will typically do better the 2nd time around.

The poster who wrote that Campbell's improvement from a 14 to a 28 put the value of the test in doubt was correct. I'd bet that the third test was given to rule out the possibility of cheating...getting an advance copy of the actual test he took. Since he scored a 27 on his third try, the low 14 is the mark you'd question.

Yes, you can learn strategies to improve your score on any test, but you don't go from a 14 to a 28. If this happened often, you'd toss the test out as worthless. But the test has been used by businesses for several years and has a good track record, so Campbell's 14 score is a mystery.

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I think Ramsey is bright enough for the job, but is slow in all the decision making skills necessary, which ultimatley have little to do w/i.q. & general cognitive aptitude.

I've read this before from a couple of other posters and wondered about it. Is it possible for you to explain how a spectator can tell that Ramsey is slow in his decision-making skills?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Huddle

I've read this before from a couple of other posters and wondered about it. Is it possible for you to explain how a spectator can tell that Ramsey is slow in his decision-making skills?

I'd kinda have to agree... there's a difference before slow and bad decisions.

he held on to the ball forever (earlier on at least) cause he was always waiting on guys to get downfield...


and you can go from a 14 to a 28 easily. That why SAT classes are offered (they work). You literally take about an hour on strategy and then just answer thousands of questions... take a test, review it, take another one...

Its sorta like preparing for jeopardy or it's academic... for those you just memorize list after list of category info (answers) if you want to do well.

[irish]

I just heard on the TK show that PR will be out of here by Friday. I guess we'll see.

[MTK]

Anybody wanna buy a Patrick Ramsey jersey??

I'll sell it to you real cheap.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Anybody wanna buy a Patrick Ramsey jersey??

I'll sell it to you real cheap.

I have a Coles jersey...maybe we could do a package deal?

[Monksdown]

I don't know that he is slow in his reads or not. But John "the duck" Clayton says he is. And if Salisbury agrees with him, then there must be some merit to it.

Again, watch his feet. He is scared of making the decision. Don't the coaches tell him how many steps to take. Ive never heard of the 1000 step shuffle within 2 seconds. But Patrick has mastered it.

You know what top tier QB had mastered the 1000 step shuffle this past post season don't you? Let me give you a hint, Peyton Manning.

I guess when your little feet are going up and down constantly, because you are not relaxed, it can be difficult to plant and throw accurately.