The CBA: The NFLPA and Players Are Greedy and/or Dumb

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

lifetimeskin
Give it up. Football is an entertainment bussiness, like movie stars or musicians we pay to see the talent. Certain star individuals are responsible for generating Billions of dollars in sales of Jerseys, shoes, movies, pictures and TV rights.
Stars like Tom Cruise, Angelina Jolie, U2 or Rolling Stones get paid MILLIONS just to show up and do their thing because people want to see THEM.
Same goes for NFL football, I watch football to see the talented players. They are the show. I do not pay to see Dan Snyder or anyother owner. The owners realize that and that is why they pay big salaries to keep certain players.

lifetimeskinsfan is dead on the money, your off base on this one defensewins ( just my opinion )

i could care less you is in a movie, if the movie looks to be good i'll go see it, if it looks to be bad i wont go see it. i could care less who "stars" in it.

football is the same, i'll go see or watch on tv, every redskins game regardless of the players. i watch football because i love it not because i want to see sean taylor or clinton portis.


football players are way over paid as it is.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

lifetimeskinsfan is dead on the money, your off base on this one defensewins ( just my opinion )

i could care less you is in a movie, if the movie looks to be good i'll go see it, if it looks to be bad i wont go see it. i could care less who "stars" in it.

football is the same, i'll go see or watch on tv, every redskins game regardless of the players. i watch football because i love it not because i want to see sean taylor or clinton portis.


football players are way over paid as it is.

For everyperson like you there are 20 people that will go see a movie just because their favorite star or director is in it. I never said I agreed with it but that is the way people are. People will see a Ron Howard or Stephen Speilberg directed movie just because they directed it. Plain and simple that is what drives up their demand and thus their salaries. You are usually going to have bigger revenues if you attach a certain amount of name recognition and star quality. It is all about money. I am not saying the other way will not work, on occasion a movie with no stars will do very well, but that is not as common.
I agree with you that in a perfect world athletes, movie stars and musicians should not getting more money than say a doctor that saves lives everyday. But the fact is the 4 members of U2 (for example) will generate more revenue than than any 4 doctors. It is sad but true.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

For everyperson like you there are 20 people that will go see a movie just because their favorite star or director is in it. I never said I agreed with it but that is the way people are. People will see a Ron Howard or Stephen Speilberg directed movie just because they directed it. Plain and simple that is what drives up their demand and thus their salaries. You are usually going to have bigger revenues if you attach a certain amount of name recognition and star quality. It is all about money. I am not saying the other way will not work, on occasion a movie with no stars will do very well, but that is not as common.
I agree with you that in a perfect world athletes, movie stars and musicians should not getting more money than say a doctor that saves lives everyday. But the fact is the 4 members of U2 (for example) will generate more revenue than than any 4 doctors. It is sad but true.

fair enough but do you really think football fans will stop watching their favorite teams just because their teams cut a few "stars" ? i don't think they will, i know i won't.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

fair enough but do you really think football fans will stop watching their favorite teams just because their teams cut a few "stars" ? i don't think they will, i know i won't.

the patriots make a habit out of it.

lawyer milloy, ty law, and this year, possibly mcginest and vinetari. They haven't lost a lot of fan interest over it though. brady's the only one that matters... and he gives money back... he could have 3 times his salary but said no thanks, so i doubt it'd ever be economical to ditch him.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

fair enough but do you really think football fans will stop watching their favorite teams just because their teams cut a few "stars" ? i don't think they will, i know i won't.

The majority (large masses) of NFL fans are not loyal fans like you and I, most are really fair weather fans.
The Colts are the perfect example. Right before the Colts got Manning, Edgerrin and Harrison nobody gave a rat ass about the colts. Their attendance was horrible and they were never on TV. They did not have a probowl player for years. NOw they have the stars and have been to the playoffs for a few years, they sell out and now the city wants to build them a stadium just to keep them. Oh, how things have changed for them.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

The majority (large masses) of NFL fans are not loyal fans like you and I, most are really fair weather fans.
The Colts are the perfect example. Right before the Colts got Manning, Edgerrin and Harrison nobody gave a rat ass about the colts. Their attendance was horrible and they were never on TV. They did not have a probowl player for years. NOw they have the stars and have been to the playoffs for a few years, they sell out and now the city wants to build them a stadium just to keep them. Oh, how things have changed for them.

i agree with you , youve made valid points but i don't believe the impact of losing a few star players would hurt any nfl team (as far as attendance and so forth...)

teams like the colts, that you mentioned, wouldn't cut manning or harrison , they would cut some lesser known stars. same with the skins, they're way over the cap but they wouldn't cut any of their true stars.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i agree with you , youve made valid points but i don't believe the impact of losing a few star players would hurt any nfl team (as far as attendance and so forth...)

teams like the colts, that you mentioned, wouldn't cut manning or harrison , they would cut some lesser known stars. same with the skins, they're way over the cap but they wouldn't cut any of their true stars.

like lavar? stars get replaced, just wait a couple years.

[GoSkins!]

I think that the CBA talks would make a good Dilbert cartoon. Catbert would be Upshaw...

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by That Guy

like lavar? stars get replaced, just wait a couple years.

thats my point, stars come and go but true fans still watch their favorite teams
regardless.