Good luck with B-Lloyd

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by The Reverend

I think it involves those two second rounders we might be getting from you. To be honest I'd be happy with just one second for him.

since when are the redskins giving u 2 2nd rounders

[9erman]

Redskins interested in Lloyd, report says
49ERS RECEIVER'S DEAL MIGHT MAKE IT TOUGH
By Dennis Georgatos
Mercury News

The Washington Redskins reportedly are making a pitch for 49ers receiver Brandon Lloyd.

Lloyd, after a team-leading 48 catches for 733 yards last season, is a restricted free agent bound to the 49ers by a $1.6 million qualifying offer. The tender gives the 49ers the right to match any offer or receive a compensatory first-round pick if Lloyd signs elsewhere.

The Redskins are interested in Lloyd as a complement to Pro Bowl receiver Santana Moss. However, they are without a first-round pick in next month's draft.

So the Redskins are pursuing a trade for Lloyd, and according to the Washington Post, a deal could be imminent. One proposal being considered was a pair of second-round picks for the receiver, the Post reported.

Aaron Salkin, a spokesman for the 49ers, said the Redskins had not yet spoken with the 49ers about the deal, which can now be made with the start of the free-agency signing period.

In the past, Coach Mike Nolan and team vice president Scot McCloughan have said they would be willing to consider virtually any trade or roster move that they believe would make the team better.

Lloyd's agent, Joby Branion, did not return a phone call seeking comment, and a Redskins spokesman did not return a phone message.

Nolan has praised Lloyd's abilities but the receiver also has drawn the coach's ire. Nolan was critical of Lloyd after a loss in Chicago in which the player shifted blame for a dropped pass at the goal line to quarterback Cody Pickett.

• In other news, the 49ers might wrap up a new contact for kicker Joe Nedney by today. Nedney made 26 of 28 field-goal tries last season, including all 10 between 40 and 49 yards.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/14073921.htm

[The Reverend]

Originally Posted by steveo395

since when are the redskins giving u 2 2nd rounders

of all the rumors I've heard, that is the most common one. He is tendered at the 1st round level.

[RiggoRules]

Mad props to you 9erMan.

We get Lloyd. You still are stuck with Nolan. We remember him from when he was running the Clay Aiken style defense here before he finally got fired (Snyder got tired of taking it like he was Clay Aiken). Hmmm. Who is going to be available in the 3rd round this year or the 4th next year that will be an upgrade?

Granted, you guys are in rebuild mode and two mid round picks may make more sense (no, you can forget about two second rounders).

The big value of Lloyd to us is how he will fit into the bigger picture of the offense. He will make our QB better and our other WRs better. He isn't going to have to be The Man.

He was forced into a role in SF that he simply A) wasn't ready for and B) didn't have the team around him that would have given him any chance to succeed.

This deal will probably work out to be good for everybody.

[9erman]

Originally Posted by RiggoRules

Mad props to you 9erMan.

We get Lloyd. You still are stuck with Nolan. We remember him from when he was running the Clay Aiken style defense here before he finally got fired (Snyder got tired of taking it like he was Clay Aiken). Hmmm. Who is going to be available in the 3rd round this year or the 4th next year that will be an upgrade?

Granted, you guys are in rebuild mode and two mid round picks may make more sense (no, you can forget about two second rounders).

The big value of Lloyd to us is how he will fit into the bigger picture of the offense. He will make our QB better and our other WRs better. He isn't going to have to be The Man.

He was forced into a role in SF that he simply A) wasn't ready for and B) didn't have the team around him that would have given him any chance to succeed.

This deal will probably work out to be good for everybody.

I hope the deal works out for both if us. Norv will want a WR that can get downfield which Lloyd is not. You need role players like Lloyd to help your overall offense. Eric Johnson will be back, we will have Vernon Davis, and our line will be much better so I am not worried about replacing his receptions.

Lloyd may help a team that has a #1 sure....but he is not very fast and does not go over the middle so he will never be worth a day 1 pick IMO.

The vanilla defense Nolan ran in DC had a lot to do with the lack of talent and many injuries on your defense. He is a good motivator and will not be calling the plays

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by 9erman

I hope the deal works out for both if us. Norv will want a WR that can get downfield which Lloyd is not. You need role players like Lloyd to help your overall offense. Eric Johnson will be back, we will have Vernon Davis, and our line will be much better so I am not worried about replacing his receptions.

Lloyd may help a team that has a #1 sure....but he is not very fast and does not go over the middle so he will never be worth a day 1 pick IMO.

The vanilla defense Nolan ran in DC had a lot to do with the lack of talent and many injuries on your defense. He is a good motivator and will not be calling the plays

hahahahahaha you guys have norv...seriously that sucks

[9erman]

Originally Posted by steveo395

hahahahahaha you guys have norv...seriously that sucks

As a OC he is great....as a HC he sux.

We have also contacted the agent for David Givens.

[LongTimeSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by 9erman

The vanilla defense Nolan ran in DC had a lot to do with the lack of talent and many injuries on your defense. He is a good motivator and will not be calling the plays

I've also seen him run the same defense in NY (giants) and Baltimore when both teams had talent. While he is the most talked about DC he is far from the best. His love affair with prevent defenses is sickening and lack of agressiveness has cost his teams many a game.

Furthermore, on the subject of Norv, I couldn't agree more. He is a horrible HC. Can't motivate, is too soft on the players, and can't seem to garner their respect because he's too busy trying to be everyone's best friend. As an OC, he is an incredible offensive mind. Give him a top flite running back, tight end, and QB and he'll put together a solid offense for you.

We'll see what happens with Lloyd. There's lots of nay-sayers out there, no doubt, but then again everyone said that trading Moss for Coles would be a bust. Well it was for the Jets at least. We got a pro-bowl receiver out of the deal and the Jets got a Toe-bowl receiver. We're giving up a 3rd RD and 4th RD (don't listen to what the Post says, 90% of the time they make up stories on the laptop as they go along and call it news) so I feel it's pretty even in terms of value. We'll see if he's got the stuff to be the #2. I think there's going to be some heated competition for that position in SC and he'll be one of the contenders.

[9erman]

Originally Posted by LongTimeSkinsFan

I've also seen him run the same defense in NY (giants) and Baltimore when both teams had talent. While he is the most talked about DC he is far from the best. His love affair with prevent defenses is sickening and lack of agressiveness has cost his teams many a game.

Furthermore, on the subject of Norv, I couldn't agree more. He is a horrible HC. Can't motivate, is too soft on the players, and can't seem to garner their respect because he's too busy trying to be everyone's best friend. As an OC, he is an incredible offensive mind. Give him a top flite running back, tight end, and QB and he'll put together a solid offense for you.

We'll see what happens with Lloyd. There's lots of nay-sayers out there, no doubt, but then again everyone said that trading Moss for Coles would be a bust. Well it was for the Jets at least. We got a pro-bowl receiver out of the deal and the Jets got a Toe-bowl receiver. We're giving up a 3rd RD and 4th RD (don't listen to what the Post says, 90% of the time they make up stories on the laptop as they go along and call it news) so I feel it's pretty even in terms of value. We'll see if he's got the stuff to be the #2. I think there's going to be some heated competition for that position in SC and he'll be one of the contenders.

Good post....I think that we come out great here by picking up draft picks and replacing Lloyd through FA. I wish y'all the best of luck with both Lloyd and Carter and I hope they do well for you.
BEAT THE COWBOYS!!!!!!

[RiggoRules]

Originally Posted by 9erman

Good post....I think that we come out great here by picking up draft picks and replacing Lloyd through FA. I wish y'all the best of luck with both Lloyd and Carter and I hope they do well for you.
BEAT THE COWBOYS!!!!!!

You know, 9erman, you have been spending quite a bit of time over here lately. Isn't this really a cry for help? Aren't you really saying that you have experienced too much pain rooting for the 49ers as of late and are looking for a soft place to land? We understand. We'll welcome you over to the Burgandy and Gold with open arms.

[9erman]

Originally Posted by RiggoRules

You know, 9erman, you have been spending quite a bit of time over here lately. Isn't this really a cry for help? Aren't you really saying that you have experienced too much pain rooting for the 49ers as of late and are looking for a soft place to land? We understand. We'll welcome you over to the Burgandy and Gold with open arms.

There is a poster on our sites called DesperateJetsFan. He does the same as me.....just needs another source of conversation.
P.S. I will die a 9er fan

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by LongTimeSkinsFan

We'll see what happens with Lloyd. There's lots of nay-sayers out there, no doubt, but then again everyone said that trading Moss for Coles would be a bust. Well it was for the Jets at least. We got a pro-bowl receiver out of the deal and the Jets got a Toe-bowl receiver. We're giving up a 3rd RD and 4th RD (don't listen to what the Post says, 90% of the time they make up stories on the laptop as they go along and call it news) so I feel it's pretty even in terms of value. We'll see if he's got the stuff to be the #2. I think there's going to be some heated competition for that position in SC and he'll be one of the contenders.

none of the nay sayers said anything bad about moss's attitude (quite the oppossite), just that they thought cole was better (the jets fans didn't know we gave him back with only 8 fingers and 9 toes), and santana went out of bounds too often (which he didn't here, but we never threw between the numbers either) and that he had yearly hamstring issues (which we avoided).