Ryan Clark

shallyshal · 03-13-2006, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Archuleta is listed as 6-0, 223 pounds.

Clark is listed as 5-11, 205.

Archuleta's upside is still pretty significant, especially in a GW defense. Clark is a classic overachiever and we've probably already seen what he's capable of.

If GW wants Archuleta, that's all I need to know.

totally agree. the upside of clark is that he is a disciplined player. tackles well. has decent hands and some coverage skills. gets swallowed up onthe blitz. he was undrafted.

arch was a first rounder and hits like a ton. his advantage is that he won't
get hung up while blitzing as he has a former linebacker's skill set. more like bowen inthat regards. the negative has been his lack of turnover production at safety.

as you say, if williams wants him, that is enough for me..

drew54 · 03-13-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by shallyshal

totally agree. the upside of clark is that he is a disciplined player. tackles well. has decent hands and some coverage skills. gets swallowed up onthe blitz. he was undrafted.

arch was a first rounder and hits like a ton. his advantage is that he won't
get hung up while blitzing as he has a former linebacker's skill set. more like bowen inthat regards. the negative has been his lack of turnover production at safety.

as you say, if williams wants him, that is enough for me..

Your know what your so right. I would much rather have Ryan Leaf or Rick Mirer over Jake Dellomme because he was an undrafted player.

amorentz · 03-13-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by drew54

Your know what your so right. I would much rather have Ryan Leaf or Rick Mirer over Jake Dellomme because he was an undrafted player.

Yeah, but come on now...Arch has already shown he can play over the last 5 years with the Rams and is a top rated safety. Its not fair to compare him to Leaf or Mirer...

drew54 · 03-13-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by amorentz

Yeah, but come on now...Arch has already shown he can play over the last 5 years with the Rams and is a top rated safety. Its not fair to compare him to Leaf or Mirer...

That wasn't my point. My point is it doesn't matter where your drafted. The fact that AA was drafted in the first round means nothing to me.

jermus22 · 03-13-2006, 12:22 PM

Nothing against Arch but I don't understand all this talk about a "core group of guys" and then letting Clark go. Arch WILL be more expensive and we have other more pressing needs than strong safety. Why in the world did we make such a boneheaded play? It will cost us financially (and possibly in terms of cohesion) in the long run.

RedskinPete · 03-13-2006, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jermus22

Nothing against Arch but I don't understand all this talk about a "core group of guys" and then letting Clark go. Arch WILL be more expensive and we have other more pressing needs than strong safety. Why in the world did we make such a boneheaded play? It will cost us financially (and possibly in terms of cohesion) in the long run.

First off we have no Idea what Clark wanted!!! We will see soon what he wanted. As for Clark he many not be goen. As for cohesion I believe this will not be a problem because these are great guys and the Skins I am sure have looked in to it!!!

mcalderone10 · 03-13-2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinPete

First off we have no Idea what Clark wanted!!! We will see soon what he wanted. As for Clark he many not be goen. As for cohesion I believe this will not be a problem because these are great guys and the Skins I am sure have looked in to it!!!

still but meeting a guy isn't the same as after playing with him for a year. you don't know him as well and like the guy before said gotta keep the core group. only thing is D is easier to bring together than O. just remember we got GWill and JGibbs with the deep pockets of DSnuts

GoSkins! · 03-13-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jermus22

Nothing against Arch but I don't understand all this talk about a "core group of guys" and then letting Clark go.

Who said that Clark was deemed a "core redskin"? My understanding is that the Skins have determined the 15 guys they feel like they need to keep together to keep continuity. I don't think that Clark could possibly be in that group of 15. I like him, but he isn't M. Washington, or Griff, or Jansen...

jermus22 · 03-13-2006, 02:01 PM

I don't recall Gibbs, Williams, Snyder, Cerrato, or anyone else within the organization stating that the term "core redskins" is restricted to only 15 players on the team. When anyone can find anything supporting that theory, let me know.
As for what Clark wanted, he made it clear in the article mentioned earlier that he wanted to start. And I think he deserves that opportunity considering that he had to beat out Bowen, Stoutmire, Prioleau, and Andre Lott (a year ago) to get his role with the team. It's not like he was a liability or weakness in our secondary.
Someone mentioned that we don't know what his teammates think of him. Well, I do know that Gregg Williams has praised him on several occasions, and both Marcus Washington and Mike Sellers have also had good things to say about him.
I suggest that SOME of you do a little research on Clark before suggesting that he may not be liked by his teammates or that he hasn't stated what he wants. The articles over the past year from the Washington Post have made it abundantly clear where he stands.

03-13-2006, 12:22 PM	#5
jermus22 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Frankfort, KY Age: 43 Posts: 336	Re: Ryan Clark Nothing against Arch but I don't understand all this talk about a "core group of guys" and then letting Clark go. Arch WILL be more expensive and we have other more pressing needs than strong safety. Why in the world did we make such a boneheaded play? It will cost us financially (and possibly in terms of cohesion) in the long run. __________________ Win it in the trenches.

03-13-2006, 02:01 PM	#9
jermus22 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Frankfort, KY Age: 43 Posts: 336	Re: Ryan Clark I don't recall Gibbs, Williams, Snyder, Cerrato, or anyone else within the organization stating that the term "core redskins" is restricted to only 15 players on the team. When anyone can find anything supporting that theory, let me know. As for what Clark wanted, he made it clear in the article mentioned earlier that he wanted to start. And I think he deserves that opportunity considering that he had to beat out Bowen, Stoutmire, Prioleau, and Andre Lott (a year ago) to get his role with the team. It's not like he was a liability or weakness in our secondary. Someone mentioned that we don't know what his teammates think of him. Well, I do know that Gregg Williams has praised him on several occasions, and both Marcus Washington and Mike Sellers have also had good things to say about him. I suggest that SOME of you do a little research on Clark before suggesting that he may not be liked by his teammates or that he hasn't stated what he wants. The articles over the past year from the Washington Post have made it abundantly clear where he stands. __________________ Win it in the trenches.

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