NFC will win superbowl

[Redskins8588]

I do think that the giants are our biggest contender for the division title, but you honestly think that the vikings will be pushing for a playoff spot over the bears? you do remember that the bears were the #2 seed last year in the playoffs? You make it sound as if last year was a fluke for the bears. I think that the bears will be hard to beat, esp. now that they have a decent QB in Greise(SP)...

[skinshomer]

I am a skins fan in ND but I do have some friends who are Viking fans and looking at their schedule they should win 11-12 games this year. That being said I think they win their division over the bears.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by skinshomer

I am a skins fan in ND but I do have some friends who are Viking fans and looking at their schedule they should win 11-12 games this year. That being said I think they win their division over the bears.

Wow.

I'd say that the closest thing to a guarantee I can make is that the Vikings won't see the sunny side of .500 ball. A new coach with a new system, an aging QB, no dominant RBs or WRs - these are not the ingredients for a championship. The only belssing they have is they are playing in the weakest division in football - and with the NFC West still out there, that's saying something.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

Wow.

I'd say that the closest thing to a guarantee I can make is that the Vikings won't see the sunny side of .500 ball. A new coach with a new system, an aging QB, no dominant RBs or WRs - these are not the ingredients for a championship. The only belssing they have is they are playing in the weakest division in football - and with the NFC West still out there, that's saying something.

Agreed. The Vikings will be lucky to get over .500 this year for all the reasons you've stated. The Bears rule this division, the Vikes could be looking at a top 5 draft pick next year.

[mheisig]

I think the original statement was that the NFC is better now than the AFC (hence, "The NFC will win the Super Bowl.")

Is anyone forgetting about a few AFC teams who have won a game or two recently? The Colts, Steelers and Bengals are rock solid teams, Miami was going on a rampage the last half of last season, you can never count out the Patriots and from a simple talent standpoint you can't count out the Chargers, Chiefs and Broncos.

The NFC has some great defenses and some great wide receivers, but the AFC seems stacked with QBs and RBs.

I'm not making an argument one way or another really, just saying it seems a bit silly to just say the AFC is faltering or not competition anymore.

[mheisig]

Oh, and last season 6 of the top 10 teams in total offense were AFC teams, and 5 of the top 7 were AFC teams.

The AFC isn't about to roll over and die.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by mheisig

I think the original statement was that the NFC is better now than the AFC (hence, "The NFC will win the Super Bowl.")

Is anyone forgetting about a few AFC teams who have won a game or two recently? The Colts, Steelers and Bengals are rock solid teams, Miami was going on a rampage the last half of last season, you can never count out the Patriots and from a simple talent standpoint you can't count out the Chargers, Chiefs and Broncos.

The NFC has some great defenses and some great wide receivers, but the AFC seems stacked with QBs and RBs.

I'm not making an argument one way or another really, just saying it seems a bit silly to just say the AFC is faltering or not competition anymore.

The Colts let a HOF caliber back go in James. The Steelers had measurable FA losses and lost a locker room leader in Bettis. The Bengals starting QB had the second worst knee injury of the year. Miami's new QB had a catastrophic knee injury that will likely forever change him as a QB. The Patriots lost several key free agents, and expect one of the dancing Grammatica brothers to replace the clutchingest kicker of all time. The Chargers will be relying on a QB who has thrown all of thirty regular season passes. The Chiefs new offensive coordinator has never coached a "skill position" (sorry, offensive linemen). The Broncos may be the team to beat here, but the vaunted running game has been declining steadily since o-line guru Alex Gibbs left for Atlanta (top rusher Mike Anderson ran for only 1014 regular season yards, and left for the Ravens).

Now, the same arguments can be made about any team in either conference. There's always some loss. I think the two conferences are a lot more even than the media (or the stats) suggest. I would say that the potential contenders who improved themselves the most are in the NFC, though.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

The Colts let a HOF caliber back go in James. The Steelers had measurable FA losses and lost a locker room leader in Bettis. The Bengals starting QB had the second worst knee injury of the year. Miami's new QB had a catastrophic knee injury that will likely forever change him as a QB. The Patriots lost several key free agents, and expect one of the dancing Grammatica brothers to replace the clutchingest kicker of all time. The Chargers will be relying on a QB who has thrown all of thirty regular season passes. The Chiefs new offensive coordinator has never coached a "skill position" (sorry, offensive linemen). The Broncos may be the team to beat here, but the vaunted running game has been declining steadily since o-line guru Alex Gibbs left for Atlanta (top rusher Mike Anderson ran for only 1014 regular season yards, and left for the Ravens).

Now, the same arguments can be made about any team in either conference. There's always some loss. I think the two conferences are a lot more even than the media (or the stats) suggest. I would say that the potential contenders who improved themselves the most are in the NFC, though.

That was exactly my point

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Agreed. The Vikings will be lucky to get over .500 this year for all the reasons you've stated. The Bears rule this division, the Vikes could be looking at a top 5 draft pick next year.

Am I the only one that thinks the lions could finally be decent this year? With Mike Martz controlling their offense and Kitna at the helm of those receivers, I think their offense could finally be dangerous.

Not as intense as the offensive explosion that will come out of our nation's capital though!

[skinshomer]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Agreed. The Vikings will be lucky to get over .500 this year for all the reasons you've stated. The Bears rule this division, the Vikes could be looking at a top 5 draft pick next year.

The Bears were the luckiest team last year. Also don't forget that Minnesota was picked to go to the Super Bowl last year. They were one game from making the playoffs last year. Minnesota made some improvements over the off season. While other teams in their division didn't. Yeah Brad Johnson is old but so is Brunelle. I just think we need to be fair when accessing other teams.

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by skinshomer

The Bears were the luckiest team last year. Also don't forget that Minnesota was picked to go to the Super Bowl last year. They were one game from making the playoffs last year. Minnesota made some improvements over the off season. While other teams in their division didn't. Yeah Brad Johnson is old but so is Brunelle. I just think we need to be fair when accessing other teams.

Johnson is even older than Brunell, they got a new coach who will probably suck, they got rid of their franchise quarterback, and they don't really have any receivers. All Brad Childress does is be gay and complain about Culpepper. They drafted Tarvaris Jackson, who blows, with their second round pick, when Kellen Clemens, Brodie Croyle, and Charlie Whitehurst were still there. I don't see how they expect him to be the QB of the future, when he is crap and will never be good.

[number21isabadman]

Originally Posted by skinshomer

The Bears were the luckiest team last year. Also don't forget that Minnesota was picked to go to the Super Bowl last year. They were one game from making the playoffs last year. Minnesota made some improvements over the off season. While other teams in their division didn't. Yeah Brad Johnson is old but so is Brunelle. I just think we need to be fair when accessing other teams.

HaHaHaHa yes i do recall them being picked last year by some sports writers, but that was along time ago, the team is far different than it was a year ago, they lost there starting qb, there starting running back, there head coach, one of the starting wide recievers and had one of the worse drafts in the nfl this year. Now not to say that their division isint up in they air, but to say minnesota is going to be alot better, i'd say to you green bay and chicago both had better off seasons, but either way it dont matter because nobody in the nfc north is going to qin the superbowl anyway.