Redskins in bed with ticket scalpers?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Hail2theskins

i agree with you completley, I dont think professional sports should be treated like business because pro sports got started in the first place because people found this amazing thing that could be done on the weekends away from their business lives, something to get your mind off the workweek, and i understand that debts need to be paid and so do the players but i also think it comes down to the ridiculous amount of money we pay our professional athletes/actor/actress types

Seems like a pleasant picture you have painted in your head about what professional sports should be like. Unfortunately it's not grounded in anything remotely resembling reality.

It's a business, like it or not. Players cost money, putting it on TV costs money, building nice stadiums costs money, serving concessions costs money, I could go on and on.

If you like football free of impact from big business, go check out some high school football games. But if you like the NFL, deal with reality. We pay our athletes/actor/actress types so much money because there are so many of us who are willing to pay dearly to see them. That's life.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Seems like a pleasant picture you have painted in your head about what professional sports should be like. Unfortunately it's not grounded in anything remotely resembling reality.

It's a business, like it or not. Players cost money, putting it on TV costs money, building nice stadiums costs money, serving concessions costs money, I could go on and on.

If you like football free of impact from big business, go check out some high school football games. But if you like the NFL, deal with reality. We pay our athletes/actor/actress types so much money because there are so many of us who are willing to pay dearly to see them. That's life.

TV networks pay the NFL to put it on so that does not cost the team anything. Same with concessions. As for stadiums they cost the taxpayer money, not the teams.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by irish

TV networks pay the NFL to put it on so that does not cost the team anything. Same with concessions. As for stadiums they cost the taxpayer money, not the teams.

sorry, wrong. synder/cook paid for this stadium in full. In fact, synder still owes about 350$million on it... how the **** is that free? concessions definately cost the team money, the fact that they make it back doesn't mean otherwise.

[irish]

The Squire was likely the last owner to build himself a stadium. In most other places, like Pittsburgh, the taxpayer got the bill. As for concessions, the team in most cases gets all the revenue without the risk because the stadium authority contracts with the supplier. Same for parking. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Seems like a pleasant picture you have painted in your head about what professional sports should be like. Unfortunately it's not grounded in anything remotely resembling reality.

It's a business, like it or not. Players cost money, putting it on TV costs money, building nice stadiums costs money, serving concessions costs money, I could go on and on.

If you like football free of impact from big business, go check out some high school football games. But if you like the NFL, deal with reality. We pay our athletes/actor/actress types so much money because there are so many of us who are willing to pay dearly to see them. That's life.

That is life, unfortunate as it may be.

[Hail2theskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Seems like a pleasant picture you have painted in your head about what professional sports should be like. Unfortunately it's not grounded in anything remotely resembling reality.

It's a business, like it or not. Players cost money, putting it on TV costs money, building nice stadiums costs money, serving concessions costs money, I could go on and on.

If you like football free of impact from big business, go check out some high school football games. But if you like the NFL, deal with reality. We pay our athletes/actor/actress types so much money because there are so many of us who are willing to pay dearly to see them. That's life.

i realize all of this i was just saying i wish it was different which goes into where our values have gone to in this country, such as someone catching a football is paid more than the leader of the free worldbut im really not going to get into all that, i understand how business works in our economy, i was simply saying that i believe professional athletes are tremondously overpaid for what they do, and i dont buy the "they can only play for so long" crap so many of them dish out because everyone of them could have obtained a college degree virtually free of charge due to their athletic ability and still come out better off than a lot of people in the world...

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Hail2theskins

i realize all of this i was just saying i wish it was different which goes into where our values have gone to in this country, such as someone catching a football is paid more than the leader of the free worldbut im really not going to get into all that, i understand how business works in our economy, i was simply saying that i believe professional athletes are tremondously overpaid for what they do, and i dont buy the "they can only play for so long" crap so many of them dish out because everyone of them could have obtained a college degree virtually free of charge due to their athletic ability and still come out better off than a lot of people in the world...

Well which would be the bigger injustice, Coach Gibbs getting $5 million a year and President Bush getting $400,000, or President Bush getting $5 million a year and Coach Gibbs getting $400,000?

I think everyone in this equation is paid pretty fairly, given what they contribute to our society.

LOL

[irish]

Originally Posted by Hail2theskins

i realize all of this i was just saying i wish it was different which goes into where our values have gone to in this country, such as someone catching a football is paid more than the leader of the free worldbut im really not going to get into all that, i understand how business works in our economy, i was simply saying that i believe professional athletes are tremondously overpaid for what they do, and i dont buy the "they can only play for so long" crap so many of them dish out because everyone of them could have obtained a college degree virtually free of charge due to their athletic ability and still come out better off than a lot of people in the world...

This has been true since the dawn of civilization. In Rome, a top gladiator was paid 15 times more than a typical Roman citizen. Screwed up then and still screwed up today.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by irish

This has been true since the dawn of civilization. In Rome, a top gladiator was paid 15 times more than a typical Roman citizen. Screwed up then and still screwed up today.

and a single loss resulted in death. considering that, it's kind of hard to argue or draw parallels.

[irish]

Originally Posted by That Guy

and a single loss resulted in death. considering that, it's kind of hard to argue or draw parallels.

Its easy to parallel, gladiators were the athletes of their time like our athletes today. Both making lots of $. Fights to the death were rather uncommon (despite what hollywood shows) because popular gladiators were stars that fans wanted to see again.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by irish

Its easy to parallel, gladiators were the athletes of their time like our athletes today. Both making lots of $. Fights to the death were rather uncommon (despite what hollywood shows) because popular gladiators were stars that fans wanted to see again.

how many pro athletes risk death based on the whims of king/emperor/etc?

last i check the answer was none. a lot of those fighting in arenas were also slaves. How many slaves our on your team's MLB roster? it's not nearly the same.

[irish]

Originally Posted by That Guy

how many pro athletes risk death based on the whims of king/emperor/etc?

last i check the answer was none. a lot of those fighting in arenas were also slaves. How many slaves our on your team's MLB roster? it's not nearly the same.

I dont think I said its the same, at least I dont see a post where I did. All I said was athletes in Roman times were paid a lot more than regular people and athletes in our time are paid a lot more than regular people. Top athletes have always been paid more than regular people.

[irish]

Originally Posted by That Guy

how many pro athletes risk death based on the whims of king/emperor/etc?

last i check the answer was none. a lot of those fighting in arenas were also slaves. How many slaves our on your team's MLB roster? it's not nearly the same.

I dont think I said its the same, at least I dont see a post where I did. All I said was athletes in Roman times were paid a lot more than regular people and athletes in our time are paid a lot more than regular people. Top athletes have always been paid more than regular people.