Missing Champ Bailey...

Bergman14 · 07-29-2004, 11:25 AM

I think in the end Bailey is a little overrated, because while he is recognized as the best corner in the game, his passion has always been questionable at best. He is not a warrior, and I am glad considering the circumstances how the whole situation turned out, with us getting Portis

raleighskinsfan · 07-29-2004, 11:37 AM

Champ Bailey is overrated, plain and simple. Don't get me wrong, he's a great corner, but I don't even think he's the best in the league. Weren't you guys watching the games last year that he got burned for TD's?? A "shut down" corner he definitely is NOT. He get's no INT's, and he can't return punts without fumbling. But the best point made so far is HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE. If he did, he would've taken our offer. I think Shawn Springs will have a great year, and we did add depth with Walt Harris and Ralph Brown. And we still have Rashaud Bauman, who is an excellent nickel back who could start if need be. I, for one, am ecstatic we traded Champ for Portis. The addition of Portis gives us one of the top 3 backs in the league, and probably the best at his age. His improvement to the offense will far outweigh any slight loss we experience from losing Champ, and I believe we'll come out better on this trade than the Broncos....

SmootSmack · 07-29-2004, 11:49 AM

Raleighskinsfan, let me know if I'm understanding you right. Are you saying that because Champ gets no INTs that he's not a "shut-down" corner? Because I would say that he gets no INTs because he's such a good "shut-down" corner that the ball is hardly thrown his way.

Look, I think players like Champ are hard to find. And while he tends to take a rather lacksadaisical approach I think he's very competitive. Remember he played most of last season with a broken wrist, and he didn't even miss a single practice.

That being said though, I think we need to look at the bigger picture. And Springs, Portis is better than say Champ and Trung. And like Hogskins points out, let's not underestimate Gregg Williams. He'll make good things happen with this defense.

Riggo44 · 07-29-2004, 05:45 PM

That being said though, I think we need to look at the bigger picture. And Springs, Portis is better than say Champ and Trung. And like Hogskins points out, let's not underestimate Gregg Williams. He'll make good things happen with this defense.[/QUOTE]
I think you said it all right there.

07-29-2004, 11:49 AM	#3
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Raleighskinsfan, let me know if I'm understanding you right. Are you saying that because Champ gets no INTs that he's not a "shut-down" corner? Because I would say that he gets no INTs because he's such a good "shut-down" corner that the ball is hardly thrown his way. Look, I think players like Champ are hard to find. And while he tends to take a rather lacksadaisical approach I think he's very competitive. Remember he played most of last season with a broken wrist, and he didn't even miss a single practice. That being said though, I think we need to look at the bigger picture. And Springs, Portis is better than say Champ and Trung. And like Hogskins points out, let's not underestimate Gregg Williams. He'll make good things happen with this defense. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-29-2004, 05:45 PM	#4
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	That being said though, I think we need to look at the bigger picture. And Springs, Portis is better than say Champ and Trung. And like Hogskins points out, let's not underestimate Gregg Williams. He'll make good things happen with this defense.[/QUOTE] I think you said it all right there. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

07-29-2004, 11:25 AM	#1
Bergman14 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Winston-Salem Age: 42 Posts: 138	I think in the end Bailey is a little overrated, because while he is recognized as the best corner in the game, his passion has always been questionable at best. He is not a warrior, and I am glad considering the circumstances how the whole situation turned out, with us getting Portis

07-29-2004, 11:37 AM	#2
raleighskinsfan Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 62	Champ Bailey is overrated, plain and simple. Don't get me wrong, he's a great corner, but I don't even think he's the best in the league. Weren't you guys watching the games last year that he got burned for TD's?? A "shut down" corner he definitely is NOT. He get's no INT's, and he can't return punts without fumbling. But the best point made so far is HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE. If he did, he would've taken our offer. I think Shawn Springs will have a great year, and we did add depth with Walt Harris and Ralph Brown. And we still have Rashaud Bauman, who is an excellent nickel back who could start if need be. I, for one, am ecstatic we traded Champ for Portis. The addition of Portis gives us one of the top 3 backs in the league, and probably the best at his age. His improvement to the offense will far outweigh any slight loss we experience from losing Champ, and I believe we'll come out better on this trade than the Broncos....

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