Troy Vincent available soon....why not?

FRPLG · 09-15-2006, 10:42 AM

He wont be healthy for several weeks supposedly. I would guess he wont get too much in salary. To me he is worth a workout and a cheap contract if we can get him. He need help in the secondary obviously.

JoeRedskin · 09-15-2006, 10:51 AM

You know what? I'll think I'll leave this one to the coaches.

Monkeydad · 09-15-2006, 11:01 AM

Troy Vincent? How old is that guy? He's been around a long time if I'm thinking of the right guy.

Not for that price.

Mc2guy · 09-15-2006, 11:13 AM

What I believe most of you are missing is that when he clears waivers, he is a FA, which means he can sign with anyone for the best deal he can get, not the $2.6M he will ALREADY BE GETTING from the Bills. There is only a $2.6M cap hit if someone claims him off waivers, and then it isn't $2.6, it's whatever the prorated remaining salary is at that time. He won't be picked up on waivers.

Assuming he's healthy by week 6, my bet is that he could be had for a $600k signing bonus and vet min for the remaining 10 games, which would be about $500k for the remainder of the year or $1.1M total cap hit for the skins. The guy is an experienced pro and we have a major deficit in the secondary positions currently. If he's healthy we'd be foolish not to at least consider it.

dblanch66 · 09-15-2006, 11:24 AM

why not just play the guys that we drafted? Doughty has to learn sometime. Why not see if our investment pays off? Troy Vincent???? uhhhh....no.

paulskinsfan · 09-15-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dblanch66

why not just play the guys that we drafted? Doughty has to learn sometime. Why not see if our investment pays off? Troy Vincent???? uhhhh....no.

Uhhhh, probably because we cant draft worth a crap after the third round and Douhty is what, a 6th round selection?

NYCSkin · 09-15-2006, 11:48 AM

Vincent though is a very strong locker room guy. And he was coached by Jerry Gray recently so he should know our schemes. Worth a shot after he clears waivers imo. Might also help getting a professional veteran DB around Taylor and Toast to help them grow on/off field.

I also think Bobby Taylor is floating around looking for a team so we could go with a retro Eagles backup secondary circa 2003...(just kidding)

Monkeydad · 09-15-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Uhhhh, probably because we cant draft worth a crap after the third round and Douhty is what, a 6th round selection?

Ade Jimoh went undrafted.

paulskinsfan · 09-15-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

Ade Jimoh went undrafted.

And do we really have to go through Ade's history of toastism? (nice word huh?)

NYCSkin · 09-15-2006, 12:15 PM

I was acrually placing the Toast moniker on Rogers after last week's game...

That Guy · 09-17-2006, 03:24 AM

he can't make our secondary depth worse, and it's not like champ or ty law are going to be available for vet min any time soon.

why not. he' yet another injury prone player, but it seems like we're trying to corner the market on them anyways, so he can help us there too

joethiesmanfan · 09-17-2006, 04:48 AM

Doughty oh no...............

dmek25 · 09-17-2006, 06:58 AM

why is everyone here in a panic? we lost just ONE game? everyone needs to calm down alittle bit

That Guy · 09-17-2006, 08:36 AM

this is calm. wait till next week. people will either start jumping off bridges or declaring how our team can't possibly do worse than 16 and 0.

yeah, i know, but that's life.

Pocket$ $traight · 09-17-2006, 08:51 AM

I would sign Vincent in a second but don't be surprised if he ends up back with Mean Green...

09-15-2006, 10:42 AM	#16
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Troy Vincent available soon....why not? He wont be healthy for several weeks supposedly. I would guess he wont get too much in salary. To me he is worth a workout and a cheap contract if we can get him. He need help in the secondary obviously.

09-15-2006, 10:51 AM	#17
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Troy Vincent available soon....why not? You know what? I'll think I'll leave this one to the coaches. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

09-15-2006, 11:01 AM	#18
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Troy Vincent available soon....why not? Troy Vincent? How old is that guy? He's been around a long time if I'm thinking of the right guy. Not for that price.

09-15-2006, 11:13 AM	#19
Mc2guy Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Burke, VA Age: 48 Posts: 287	Re: Troy Vincent available soon....why not? What I believe most of you are missing is that when he clears waivers, he is a FA, which means he can sign with anyone for the best deal he can get, not the $2.6M he will ALREADY BE GETTING from the Bills. There is only a $2.6M cap hit if someone claims him off waivers, and then it isn't $2.6, it's whatever the prorated remaining salary is at that time. He won't be picked up on waivers. Assuming he's healthy by week 6, my bet is that he could be had for a $600k signing bonus and vet min for the remaining 10 games, which would be about $500k for the remainder of the year or $1.1M total cap hit for the skins. The guy is an experienced pro and we have a major deficit in the secondary positions currently. If he's healthy we'd be foolish not to at least consider it.

09-15-2006, 11:24 AM	#20
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 59 Posts: 1,176	Re: Troy Vincent available soon....why not? why not just play the guys that we drafted? Doughty has to learn sometime. Why not see if our investment pays off? Troy Vincent???? uhhhh....no.

09-15-2006, 11:48 AM	#22
NYCSkin Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 54 Posts: 513	Re: Troy Vincent available soon....why not? Vincent though is a very strong locker room guy. And he was coached by Jerry Gray recently so he should know our schemes. Worth a shot after he clears waivers imo. Might also help getting a professional veteran DB around Taylor and Toast to help them grow on/off field. I also think Bobby Taylor is floating around looking for a team so we could go with a retro Eagles backup secondary circa 2003...(just kidding)

09-15-2006, 12:15 PM	#25
NYCSkin Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 54 Posts: 513	Re: Troy Vincent available soon....why not? I was acrually placing the Toast moniker on Rogers after last week's game...

09-17-2006, 03:24 AM	#26
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Troy Vincent available soon....why not? he can't make our secondary depth worse, and it's not like champ or ty law are going to be available for vet min any time soon. why not. he' yet another injury prone player, but it seems like we're trying to corner the market on them anyways, so he can help us there too

09-17-2006, 04:48 AM	#27
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Troy Vincent available soon....why not? Doughty oh no...............

09-17-2006, 06:58 AM	#28
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Troy Vincent available soon....why not? why is everyone here in a panic? we lost just ONE game? everyone needs to calm down alittle bit __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

09-17-2006, 08:36 AM	#29
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Troy Vincent available soon....why not? this is calm. wait till next week. people will either start jumping off bridges or declaring how our team can't possibly do worse than 16 and 0. yeah, i know, but that's life.

09-17-2006, 08:51 AM	#30
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 49 Posts: 4,261	Re: Troy Vincent available soon....why not? I would sign Vincent in a second but don't be surprised if he ends up back with Mean Green...

Troy Vincent available soon....why not?

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