Redskins v. Giants: Goat of the Week?

[MTK]

If I have to listen to Brunell bashing all week I think I'm going to puke. If you can honestly say that he was the main reason for that loss I'm sorry that's just a very ignorant view.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If I have to listen to Brunell bashing all week I think I'm going to puke. If you can honestly say that he was the main reason for that loss I'm sorry that's just a very ignorant view.

I think I have to disagree. Whenever another team makes an offense look like that it always starts with the QB plain and simple. He is too easy to scheme against and 3 times out of 5 this year that's exactly what has happened. I won't say anything else bad about Brunell this week but he is making me crazy. And yes that sure was a team loss of course.

[backrow]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

it always starts with the QB plain and simple.

Well said!

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If I have to listen to Brunell bashing all week I think I'm going to puke. If you can honestly say that he was the main reason for that loss I'm sorry that's just a very ignorant view.

You won't have to listen to Brunell bashing because everyone will have too tough of a time identifying whom to bash. Offense, defense, Hall (please bring in competition), coaching. Everything was bad this week. That's why we're 0-3 vs. the NFC and 0-2 in the NFC East. We're a sub-.500 team, like it or not.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If I have to listen to Brunell bashing all week I think I'm going to puke. If you can honestly say that he was the main reason for that loss I'm sorry that's just a very ignorant view.

Matty,

If the team has no inspiration who is going to light a fire under them? You could say coaches but these assholes collectively make 100 million plus per year, they should be accountable. The coaches can't make a big pass or escape the pocket after having 7 seconds or more. Who the hell else should we blame?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Matty,

If the team has no inspiration who is going to light a fire under them? You could say coaches but these assholes collectively make 100 million plus per year, they should be accountable. The coaches can't make a big pass or escape the pocket after having 7 seconds or more. Who the hell else should we blame?

I wish benching Brunell was the miracle cure, but it's not.

It's getting really old. Team loses, bash Brunell. Team wins, the haters are quiet, mostly.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I wish benching Brunell was the miracle cure, but it's not.

It's getting really old. Team loses, bash Brunell. Team wins, the haters are quiet, mostly.

I am not a Brunell hater but if I see his weaknesses exposed and we lose the game because of it, I am going to call a spade a spade.

You are right, benching him is not the answer. This is a question with many parts.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I am not a Brunell hater but if I see his weaknesses exposed and we lose the game because of it, I am going to call a spade a spade.

So let's call out all the spades. The atrocious 3rd down D today. The big plays given up. No pressure on Manning. Shitty tackling. No run D. Shitty execution on offense. Missed FG by Hall, etc, etc.

Brunell is just one piece of what was a team wide problem today. He doesn't deserve to be singled out today.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So let's call out all the spades. The atrocious 3rd down D today. The big plays given up. No pressure on Manning. Shitty tackling. No run D. Shitty execution on offense. Missed FG by Hall, etc, etc.

Brunell is just one piece of what was a team wide problem today. He doesn't deserve to be singled out today.

THat missed FG by Hall was meaningless and a very poor call on 4th and short. We needed to TD's and a made field goal would not have done a thing for our team. Now if we go for it on 4th down and make it maybe it gives the team some hope. It also lets the O know that the coaches have some convidence in them to make a play when needed. Kicking only said that we give up and its a hopless.

[jdlea]

There's plenty of blame to go around. The defense played like a bunch of scrubs, I knew Tiki would give them trouble, but Eli throwing deep all day was inexcusable. Every one of the d backs spent some time in the toaster yesterday. It was just ugly.

The offense was terrible mostly because the O Line let the Giants D get into the backfield the whole day. As for Brunell...he looked like Brunell when he's under pressure. Horrid. Clinton had about 4 a carry, but it didn't matter cause they couldn't throw. It was a team loss. There's no one person to blame.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I wish benching Brunell was the miracle cure, but it's not.

It's getting really old. Team loses, bash Brunell. Team wins, the haters are quiet, mostly.

I certainly understand your sentiments Matty. Brunell is NOT the sole or main reason for our woes. Due to the defense's inability to stop the run or pass, Brunell simply was not on the field long enough to make enough mistakes to lose the game. And benching Brunell would not miraculously cure our team's problems. In fact, benching Brunell would effectively end our season and make our problems worse, at least in the short run.

However, Brunell, like much of the rest of the team, has been very inconsistent. Brunell has shown the ability to play very, very well when given time and open receivers. Brunell has also shown an inability to make plays when under pressure. He simply is not good enough to make up for deficiencies in other areas on the team. Given that he is the QB, one of if not THE most important player on the team, it should come as no surprise that he gets a lot of the flak when the entire team plays poorly.

Right now, Brunell is the best option we have by a long shot. Let's just hope he can turn this thing around because we all know that if he can't our team is sunk. It would be a big shame if we can't field a good team with the kind of weapons we have on offense.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If I have to listen to Brunell bashing all week I think I'm going to puke. If you can honestly say that he was the main reason for that loss I'm sorry that's just a very ignorant view.

right, cause mcnabb regularly throws for 100 yards and 50% completions in loses, as does eli or peyton, or....


sorry. it's not all brunell, but he didn't help us with anything today.


1. defense (coverage, playcalling - GW knows he can't get coverage, so instead of blitzing and hoping for the best (turn overs), he sits in prevent type defensive and watches yardage get chewed up... i know the blitzes were mainly picked up, but i mean, change it up, do something, please, just please stop playing like crap).


2. offensive playcalling (predictable, not well suited for dealing with fast/capable DEs and fast DTs, one deep throw all day)

3. brunell - sorry, but even including the above two, that's just not a good job. he wasn't skipping balls, but he did get unnecessarily anxious once again because of the hint of pressure, and that seems to account for all the jekyll and hyde we've seen. he's WAY to quick to put eyes on pressure. like kurt warner, his poise is gone.

[hail_2_da_skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If I have to listen to Brunell bashing all week I think I'm going to puke. If you can honestly say that he was the main reason for that loss I'm sorry that's just a very ignorant view.

I'm just going to have to be ignorant, but I've had my fill of Brunnel. Its not this one performance, its an accumulation of lame duck performances going back to when he joined the Skins. He was a weak armed quarterback when he joined the Skins and has gotten worse. He cannot or will not throw the ball downfield. Worthless as a quarterback can be. He was a lame duck in the playoffs and has continued that this year. He had good numbers against the Texans and Jaguars but he was throwing dinks and dunks and his backs and receivers was padding his stats. Teams that have a book on him (Cowboys, Giants and Eagles), don't let him get away with that crap. The Skins are only as good as Brunnel plays and right now they stink.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If I have to listen to Brunell bashing all week I think I'm going to puke. If you can honestly say that he was the main reason for that loss I'm sorry that's just a very ignorant view.

He wasn't the hole reason but it just may be time to see if the Kid can get it done! Campbell is younger,stronger and faster then Brunell. Other teams have moved on from old QB's like the Giants,SD and Look at Grossman for the Bears. Look at the Boys dose anyone really think Bledsoe is going to take that team to a Championship? Is Campbell ready???? Well not likely no. But standing on the side line will not change that. So if your going to Puke sorry. I like Brunell but time has passed him by and it time to see if Campbell has what we hoped he can be! He may not but we will never know standing on the sideline. By putting Campbell againts a weak foe this week would be much better then the colts. Everbody believes the line,Wr's,RB's and TE are good enough to win. If that is true and the man calling the plays is that good then it comes down to the man at the QB spot.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by RedskinPete

He wasn't the hole reason but it just may be time to see if the Kid can get it done! Campbell is younger,stronger and faster then Brunell.

Why? We're not 2-8.