Should we be concerned about the defensive line?

SmootSmack · 03-07-2004, 11:01 PM

Just wondering, is Peppi Zellner part of the Redskins future plans? And where is LaDiarias Jackson these days?

skins009 · 03-07-2004, 11:16 PM

This was excactly my point earlier about why i was disappointed in the offseason. I don't think we have really upgraded our d-line. We might have to draft a d-linemen with our 5th pick now, but that would mean we pass on tayler. Its gonna be a tuff choice.

EEich · 03-07-2004, 11:23 PM

I'm not really worried about the D-line. The personnel are already improved over last year. I'm 95% sure we will go defense with our first pick... and whoever that is (Taylor, Harris, Udeze...) will help our pass rush. Most importantly... we have a new top-of-the-line D-coordinator with a history of building great defenses. We're going to be fine.

SittingBull · 03-08-2004, 02:44 AM

Article in newswire has Williams quoted as saying putting Lavar on the end on 3rd down to help the pass rush. Last season he was used that way he had 15 sacks.

Tiger · 03-08-2004, 03:09 AM

Im all for Taylor, I think he'll make an immediate impact with his size and speed. I think we'll be fine with Griffin, and it would be ideal if we could sign Wiley or Tony Brackens. Though i wouldnt mind picking up Wilfork who had a good day working out for the scouts in Miami.

Shane · 03-08-2004, 03:45 AM

I am not concerned about the defensive line. We could be better, but it takes more than a year to reconstruct a lot of our team and a decimated defensive line.

The bottom line is that we made some big strides for our defensive line so far, as well as adding a pass rushing linebacker that should help LaVar get free as well.

There is only so much you can do, without hurting the team with the salary cap later on. We've done a lot, and we may be able to find some gems in the undrafted players we'll bring to camp.

It is a concern that we are going to likely lose our restricted free agents like McCants because we have less than a million under the cap if Butler makes it through. But I think we are making a good decision to make the offer to Butler. Still I don't want to see McCants go.

SittingBull · 03-08-2004, 04:19 AM

Let go of trung or betts before you let go mccants

Gmanc711 · 03-08-2004, 06:48 AM

Seroiusly, Trung dosent need to be here at all anymore. His Usefulness was "Speed", but Chad Morton is just as fast as he is, and can be used as our change of pace back. We deifntley need to try to keep McCants

CrazyCanuck · 03-08-2004, 06:59 PM

I agree with all your points Matty.

I'm somewhat surprised the Skins made an offer on Butler. Not that I think it's a bad move (I don't really know him), I just thought if they were going to add someone it would have been to the D line.

I can only assume one of the following:

1. They weren't able to land other D linemen that they wanted and/or they didn't really like any of the choices available.

2. They can't really cut/trade Wynn, Upshaw, Noble, Haley because of their contracts, so they figure they'll get by with those guys on the line, and instead brought in Washington to improve the pass rush from the LB position, since they were able to drop Armstead with little penalty.

3. They really like Udeze or Wilfork (or another lineman) in the draft and plan on trading down to obtain one of them.

In reality it's probably a combination of all 3. I'd very surprised if they took Taylor with the #5 pick.

GO SKINS

joecrisp · 03-08-2004, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

I agree with all your points Matty.

I'm somewhat surprised the Skins made an offer on Butler. Not that I think it's a bad move (I don't really know him), I just thought if they were going to add someone it would have been to the D line.

I can only assume one of the following:

1. They weren't able to land other D linemen that they wanted and/or they didn't really like any of the choices available.

2. They can't really cut/trade Wynn, Upshaw, Noble, Haley because of their contracts, so they figure they'll get by with those guys on the line, and instead brought in Washington to improve the pass rush from the LB position, since they were able to drop Armstead with little penalty.

3. They really like Udeze or Wilfork (or another lineman) in the draft and plan on trading down to obtain one of them.

In reality it's probably a combination of all 3. I'd very surprised if they took Taylor with the #5 pick.

GO SKINS

I like that take, Canuck. I think you're dead-on.

03-07-2004, 11:01 PM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Just wondering, is Peppi Zellner part of the Redskins future plans? And where is LaDiarias Jackson these days? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-08-2004, 06:48 AM	#8
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Seroiusly, Trung dosent need to be here at all anymore. His Usefulness was "Speed", but Chad Morton is just as fast as he is, and can be used as our change of pace back. We deifntley need to try to keep McCants __________________ #21

03-07-2004, 11:16 PM	#2
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	This was excactly my point earlier about why i was disappointed in the offseason. I don't think we have really upgraded our d-line. We might have to draft a d-linemen with our 5th pick now, but that would mean we pass on tayler. Its gonna be a tuff choice.

03-07-2004, 11:23 PM	#3
EEich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 61 Posts: 1,001	I'm not really worried about the D-line. The personnel are already improved over last year. I'm 95% sure we will go defense with our first pick... and whoever that is (Taylor, Harris, Udeze...) will help our pass rush. Most importantly... we have a new top-of-the-line D-coordinator with a history of building great defenses. We're going to be fine.

03-08-2004, 02:44 AM	#4
SittingBull Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fairfax< VA Posts: 89	Article in newswire has Williams quoted as saying putting Lavar on the end on 3rd down to help the pass rush. Last season he was used that way he had 15 sacks.

03-08-2004, 03:09 AM	#5
Tiger Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3	Taylor in the 1st round Im all for Taylor, I think he'll make an immediate impact with his size and speed. I think we'll be fine with Griffin, and it would be ideal if we could sign Wiley or Tony Brackens. Though i wouldnt mind picking up Wilfork who had a good day working out for the scouts in Miami.

03-08-2004, 03:45 AM	#6
Shane Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 277	I am not concerned about the defensive line. We could be better, but it takes more than a year to reconstruct a lot of our team and a decimated defensive line. The bottom line is that we made some big strides for our defensive line so far, as well as adding a pass rushing linebacker that should help LaVar get free as well. There is only so much you can do, without hurting the team with the salary cap later on. We've done a lot, and we may be able to find some gems in the undrafted players we'll bring to camp. It is a concern that we are going to likely lose our restricted free agents like McCants because we have less than a million under the cap if Butler makes it through. But I think we are making a good decision to make the offer to Butler. Still I don't want to see McCants go.

03-08-2004, 04:19 AM	#7
SittingBull Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fairfax< VA Posts: 89	Let go of trung or betts before you let go mccants

03-08-2004, 06:59 PM	#9
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	I agree with all your points Matty. I'm somewhat surprised the Skins made an offer on Butler. Not that I think it's a bad move (I don't really know him), I just thought if they were going to add someone it would have been to the D line. I can only assume one of the following: 1. They weren't able to land other D linemen that they wanted and/or they didn't really like any of the choices available. 2. They can't really cut/trade Wynn, Upshaw, Noble, Haley because of their contracts, so they figure they'll get by with those guys on the line, and instead brought in Washington to improve the pass rush from the LB position, since they were able to drop Armstead with little penalty. 3. They really like Udeze or Wilfork (or another lineman) in the draft and plan on trading down to obtain one of them. In reality it's probably a combination of all 3. I'd very surprised if they took Taylor with the #5 pick. GO SKINS

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