The Moves We Should Make Next Year (merged)

[SmootSmack]

Here's a question for you guys. I'd say the odds are 90-10 that Brunell won't be back next year and I'll say 80-20 that Collins won't be back. So anyhow, assuming Campbell is our guy next year who is the backup?

Do we draft someone we can groom? Or, considering Campbell will essentially be a rookie, do we go after a veteran QB with playing experience. Some possibilities Jake Plummer (I don't like him personally), Chris Simms (if he's not back in Tampa, I think he'll look to start somewhere else), and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home)

Anyway, I don't like thinking about next year yet but I am curious who might be our backup QB. What do you all think?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Do we draft someone we can groom? Or, considering Campbell will essentially be a rookie, do we go after a veteran QB with playing experience. Some possibilities Jake Plummer (I don't like him personally), Chris Simms (if he's not back in Tampa, I think he'll look to start somewhere else), and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home)

Anyway, I don't like thinking about next year yet but I am curious who might be our backup QB. What do you all think?

I don't like any of the veteran options you mentioned, so I'd go with grooming. In case you haven't noticed, only the Cardinals have a worse record than the skins, that means a high draft pick.

[bedlamVR]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I don't like any of the veteran options you mentioned, so I'd go with grooming. In case you haven't noticed, only the Cardinals have a worse record than the skins, that means a high draft pick.

The lions, 49ers, Bucs, Raiders, Texans, Titans, Steelers, Dolfins, Browns, Bills are all 2-5 or worse so we would probably be looking at a top 10 draft pick at the moment.

Changes I would make are pick up a DE through the draft and look for Nate Clements through FA.

Give the reigns to Cambell. Stick with him despite what the fans say

Re-sign FA Betts, Dock and Cooley.

Take a long hard look at the left hand side of the defence and the LB corp in particular see how to solve that.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by bedlamVR

The lions, 49ers, Bucs, Raiders, Texans, Titans, Steelers, Dolfins, Browns, Bills are all 2-5 or worse so we would probably be looking at a top 10 draft pick at the moment.

The Titans beat us, and we beat the Texans...only the Lions, Miami, and Cards have a worse record. (I was incorrect in saying only the cards were worse, they just happen to have the worst record in football right now). So we can easily be looking at a top 5 pick. Especially since we have a tough schedule and we are sucking. If we can't wake up from this deep sleep vs the cowpatties, a top 5 pick is in our future.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by jsarno

The Titans beat us, and we beat the Texans...only the Lions, Miami, and Cards have a worse record. (I was incorrect in saying only the cards were worse, they just happen to have the worst record in football right now). So we can easily be looking at a top 5 pick. Especially since we have a tough schedule and we are sucking. If we can't wake up from this deep sleep vs the cowpatties, a top 5 pick is in our future.

And if we get a top five pick, who the heck do we take?!

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

And if we get a top five pick, who the heck do we take?!

I think we are assuming Quinn will be #1, but I just don't see it. I guess we'll know more in the offseason. There are always a plethera of talent in the top 10.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I think we are assuming Quinn will be #1, but I just don't see it. I guess we'll know more in the offseason. There are always a plethera of talent in the top 10.

Someone started a thread on this guy a few days ago, what happened to it?

How we're going to pay a first round pick is more important than who we're going to pick. Knowing this FO and their disdain for DP, anything relevant to same would be truly speculation. This current roster has to visit the knife before we can think about signing anybody.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

And if we get a top five pick, who the heck do we take?!

FIrst of all, we WON'T get a top 5 pick. If we did, we should go for the marquis CB, whomever that is. There's a kid named Leon Hall from Michigan who looks great.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Buster

FIrst of all, we WON'T get a top 5 pick. If we did, we should go for the marquis CB, whomever that is. There's a kid named Leon Hall from Michigan who looks great.

I'd select a pass-rushing DE before CB. With our weak pass rush, Champ Bailey himself would have a hard time in this D. Our secondary is much maligned, but you can get by with an average secondary if you have an outstanding pass rush. As poorly as Rogers and others have played at CB, I'm convinced that the talent is there (especially with a healthy Springs). I'm not as certain about Andre Carter suddenly bolstering our pass rush. Get a bonafide pass rusher, and much of this secondary's problems will disappear.

[EternalEnigma21]

[quote=TAFKAS;236107]and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home)
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Leftwitch isn't going anywhere, he's injured. If he did, I would pull him in here in a heartbeat... he's a good QB. I don't know if he'd backup JC or not. I think he's a quality starter wherever he plays...

Campbell may be better, though, we just don't know...

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Here's a question for you guys. I'd say the odds are 90-10 that Brunell won't be back next year and I'll say 80-20 that Collins won't be back. So anyhow, assuming Campbell is our guy next year who is the backup?

Do we draft someone we can groom? Or, considering Campbell will essentially be a rookie, do we go after a veteran QB with playing experience. Some possibilities Jake Plummer (I don't like him personally), Chris Simms (if he's not back in Tampa, I think he'll look to start somewhere else), and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home)

Anyway, I don't like thinking about next year yet but I am curious who might be our backup QB. What do you all think?

I, like you do not like the idea of having to think about next year right now, however based on the way things have gone for us thus far, it can't be dismissed as premature judgement.

Our foremost consideration for next year has to be sorting out the QB situation which (in my opinion) is the most important position on the team. We won't have any direction as a team until we decide on who that person is going to be. A great deal of uncertainty complicates the issue because of Gibbs's profound love and commitment to Brunell. If I read you correctly, it is your belief Brunell will not be back next year, assuming you're correct in your thinking (and many of us agree) then we should begin planning now for the changing of the guard. Let's not wait until the beginning of next season to find out whether or not Jason Campbell will be the undisputed leader of this team, the time to find that out is now (through these next eight or nine games) and in so doing, we will erase any "wonder" as to whether or not he has what's neccessary to get the job done. Once the change has been implemented and we can make a true judgement of him based on his play, then we can make other decisions as far as who/what other QB's make up the equation and in what order.

This area of our football team will remain highly speculative until we get a guage on how Gibbs is leaning on the lingering Brunell issue. It may become clearer as the remainder of the season progresses. Other areas of the team will take time to sort out because there are so many issues involved, money, free agency and draft picks head the list. It's going to really be interesting to see how this off-season plays out, mainly because we have so many different issues in so many areas of the team that warrant consideration.

[irish]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Here's a question for you guys. I'd say the odds are 90-10 that Brunell won't be back next year and I'll say 80-20 that Collins won't be back. So anyhow, assuming Campbell is our guy next year who is the backup?

Do we draft someone we can groom? Or, considering Campbell will essentially be a rookie, do we go after a veteran QB with playing experience. Some possibilities Jake Plummer (I don't like him personally), Chris Simms (if he's not back in Tampa, I think he'll look to start somewhere else), and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home)

Anyway, I don't like thinking about next year yet but I am curious who might be our backup QB. What do you all think?

If they bring any of the QBs you mention here to DC they wont be as back ups.

[61cad]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Here's a question for you guys. I'd say the odds are 90-10 that Brunell won't be back next year and I'll say 80-20 that Collins won't be back. So anyhow, assuming Campbell is our guy next year who is the backup?

Do we draft someone we can groom? Or, considering Campbell will essentially be a rookie, do we go after a veteran QB with playing experience. Some possibilities Jake Plummer (I don't like him personally), Chris Simms (if he's not back in Tampa, I think he'll look to start somewhere else), and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home)

Anyway, I don't like thinking about next year yet but I am curious who might be our backup QB. What do you all think?

I like the Chris Simms idea.

Get rid of Brunnel and Collins keep Campbell, then bring in Trent Greene as a #3.

ALSO

Please shit can John Hall!!!!