It's officially Dallas week!

[hesscl34]

[quote=Southpaw;236321]By all means, please tell us how Gibbs will right the ship and they'll be a completely different team after the bye.


It would be a lot esier to have a conversation with you if you weren't such a smart ass, and didn't attack my posts every f-ing time I defend the SKINS! All is NOT lost. And if you think so, then you don't know Joe Gibbs. You are way too young to even understand the kind of faith people have in that man.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

You are way too young to even understand the kind of faith people have in that man.

That's just a dumb comment. I may have been young, but I clearly remember the Broncos and Bills superbowls. I know how great of a coach Joe Gibbs is, and I give him all the credit he derserves for the win streak at the end of the season, last year. I also know that he is not God, and he is making a mistake by leaving Brunell as the starter.

And as far as "attacking your posts", I generally only do that when you try to tell someone they're not a fan because they don't think everything is fine.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I also know that he is not God, and he is making a mistake by leaving Brunell as the starter.

Except if the goal is to win ballgames, hes NOT making a mistake. He has access to the same statistical production numbers that I do. He knows everything that I do and so much more its not even funny. And I can tell, from a purely statistical perspective even, that Mark Brunell deserves next to no blame for the 2-5 record. Sure, if he bounces a pass in, he is to blame. But when you have a guy completing more than 64% for more than 200 yards a game and getting picked less than once every two games, you realize that he's doing his part. Not his part and everyone elses like some of you want from the QB position. His part. Gibbs isn't stupid. He can analyze basic statistics without using his QB as a scapegoat.

The truth is that there is little that Joe Gibbs can do to turn this around. Prepare for Dallas and get the guys ready. That's his job. If things continue to bounce the other teams' way, if the defense continues to get walked all over by any offense that comes it's way, we will win about 6 games. And you wouldn't put it on Gibbs.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

And I can tell, from a purely statistical perspective even, that Mark Brunell deserves next to no blame for the 2-5 record. Sure, if he bounces a pass in, he is to blame. But when you have a guy completing more than 64% for more than 200 yards a game and getting picked less than once every two games, you realize that he's doing his part. Not his part and everyone elses like some of you want from the QB position. His part. Gibbs isn't stupid. He can analyze basic statistics without using his QB as a scapegoat.

Continue to deflect blame from Brunell. Blame it on the defense, blame it on the routes, etc...

Completion percentage is meaningless when a good portion of those completions are five yards completions on 3rd and 8. David Carr has something like 70% completion percentage this season. That wonderful completion percentage does about as much good for the Texans as it does for the Skins... 2-5.

How is slightly over 200 yards a game something to boast about? That's servicable at best. Even less so when you consider that almost 400 of Brunell's passing yards this season have come from garbage time. And please spare me the garbage time theory. I already know it's just as tough to pass when the defense gives you a 15 yard cushion at the end of a blowout, as it is during the rest of the game...

And I never said Gibbs was stupid, but he is wrong if he thinks Brunell is going to lead this team to a championship. Who's to blame for the playoff run last season? The defense was putting points on the board, Portis was banged up and it was on Brunell to make some plays. He couldn't step up to the challenge. He's basically been playing the same ever since, outside of the Jags game. And while everyone knows it's not all Brunell's fault, he's also the easiest problem to fix. They can't replace the entire defense, so change what you can, and see if it creates a spark. If it doesn't, what have you lost? A playoff spot? Yeah... sure...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Continue to deflect blame from Brunell. Blame it on the defense, blame it on the routes, etc...

Completion percentage is meaningless when a good portion of those completions are five yards completions on 3rd and 8. David Carr has something like 70% completion percentage this season. That wonderful completion percentage does about as much good for the Texans as it does for the Skins... 2-5.

How is slightly over 200 yards a game something to boast about? That's servicable at best. Even less so when you consider that almost 400 of Brunell's passing yards this season have come from garbage time. And please spare me the garbage time theory. I already know it's just as tough to pass when the defense gives you a 15 yard cushion at the end of a blowout, as it is during the rest of the game...

And I never said Gibbs was stupid, but he is wrong if he thinks Brunell is going to lead this team to a championship. Who's to blame for the playoff run last season? The defense was putting points on the board, Portis was banged up and it was on Brunell to make some plays. He couldn't step up to the challenge. He's basically been playing the same ever since, outside of the Jags game. And while everyone knows it's not all Brunell's fault, he's also the easiest problem to fix. They can't replace the entire defense, so change what you can, and see if it creates a spark. If it doesn't, what have you lost? A playoff spot? Yeah... sure...

What problem? They aren't scoring 30 points a game? He isn't Peyton Manning? How long until you guys tear into Campbell for not putting up 30 PPG next season?

Why are you placing blame on Brunell on the first place? What's wrong with, "Hey, Brunell has an easy job. He throws a bunch of check downs, and makes the intermediate throw. But at least he's doing his part." I know you miss your boy, Pat Ramsey, but c'mon. Ripping on MB isn't going to bring him back.

And how come Brunell gets all these garbage yards, and no other QB in the league does. Garbage time yards are part of the game. It's part of a concept called "not giving up". All teams do it. Maybe not the Raiders, but you catch my drift.

The Texans D is worse than the Redskins. It's a common problem in the NFL. Bad D=losses. Seriously, you are making my point for me here.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Why are you placing blame on Brunell on the first place? What's wrong with, "Hey, Brunell has an easy job. He throws a bunch of check downs, and makes the intermediate throw. But at least he's doing his part." I know you miss your boy, Pat Ramsey, but c'mon. Ripping on MB isn't going to bring him back.

And how come Brunell gets all these garbage yards, and no other QB in the league does. Garbage time yards are part of the game. It's part of a concept called "not giving up". All teams do it. Maybe not the Raiders, but you catch my drift.

I'm not placing blame on Brunell first, but as I said, it's the only problem where a change could possibly create a spark for this team. And you're probably the only person with the opinion that a five yard checkdown on 3rd and 8 is Brunell "doing his part". IF Brunell manages to play out the rest of the season, I'd be interested to hear your defense for 2800 yards, 15 TD's and 10 Ints.

And uh, tons of quarterbacks get garbage yards. I know that defending old, soft quarterbacks is your specialty and not defenses, but there's this thing called a prevent defense that most teams run when they're up by more than two touchdowns in the fourth quarter. They give a fifteen yard cushion to keep everything in front of them, which is exactly what the Colts did two weekends ago. And if you call it "never giving up", why, when there was 6:00+ minutes left on the clock in the 4th, did Brunell use up four minutes to move down the field against the Colts prevent defense, when Washington needed three scores? That's not called "never giving up". It's called padding your stats, so you don't look so inept, and the score isn't so lopsided.

[Chief X_Phackter]

[quote=hesscl34;236326]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

By all means, please tell us how Gibbs will right the ship and they'll be a completely different team after the bye.


It would be a lot esier to have a conversation with you if you weren't such a smart ass, and didn't attack my posts every f-ing time I defend the SKINS! All is NOT lost. And if you think so, then you don't know Joe Gibbs. You are way too young to even understand the kind of faith people have in that man.

You are cracking me up! You can be a fan and still criticize where the Redskins are at. Those who think that things are great and the ship will be righted next week (or the week after, or the week after) are not the only fans.

You can have all the faith in Gibbs that you want...show me the money!