ROMO??? Why not JC???

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by illdefined

Last season after seven games, the running back tandem of Ladell Betts and Portis had combined for 20 receptions. This season, Betts and Portis have 38 catches."

Don't hurt me! I can explain! :cheeky-sm

I think this stat is purely product of system. Since in Gibbs' offense the backs would block almost exclusively on many passing plays, they never had a chance to catch the passes. Brunell would throw passes away last year, whereas now, he completes those passes to the back. It would fortify your explination of Brunell's increased completion percentage this year.

It's certainly been a positive change. Brunell is averaging near a half yard more per attempt this year. (6.7 in 2005, 7.1 in 2006).

I would argue that this is an instance of him grasping the system (Saunders' history involves a ton of checkdowns), but no matter how you explain it, it doesn't change what hes done.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Don't hurt me! I can explain! :cheeky-sm

I think this stat is purely product of system. Since in Gibbs' offense the backs would block almost exclusively on many passing plays, they never had a chance to catch the passes. Brunell would throw passes away last year, whereas now, he completes those passes to the back. It would fortify your explination of Brunell's increased completion percentage this year.

It's certainly been a positive change. Brunell is averaging near a half yard more per attempt this year. (6.7 in 2005, 7.1 in 2006).

I would argue that this is an instance of him grasping the system (Saunders' history involves a ton of checkdowns), but no matter how you explain it, it doesn't change what hes done.

i knew you could do it. i'd agree it doesn't change what he's done, which is lose games without getting interceptions. not sure why're you're content with Brunell still grasping the system by midseason, but is part of Al Saunders system using the other receivers? just for reference, what are the Manning brothers YPA?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by illdefined

i knew you could do it. i'd agree it doesn't change what he's done, which is lose games without getting interceptions. not sure why're you're content with Brunell still grasping the system by midseason, but is part of Al Saunders system using the other receivers? just for reference, what are the Manning brothers YPA?

Eli is 7.2 almost exactly par with Brunell. Peyton is something ridiculous like 8.0, but hes one of the greatest ever.

And as for the losing games comment, how can you even say that without trying to mislead. You lose games as a team. You aren't a worse player if you are on a losing team. You aren't a better player if you play on a winner. But if you absolutely have to assign blame, it goes on the defense for being the 28th ranked D, obviously.

I have no worries about Brunell learning/having learned/is still learning the system. None. Whatsoever.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Eli is 7.2 almost exactly par with Brunell. Peyton is something ridiculous like 8.0, but hes one of the greatest ever.

And as for the losing games comment, how can you even say that without trying to mislead. You lose games as a team. You aren't a worse player if you are on a losing team. You aren't a better player if you play on a winner. But if you absolutely have to assign blame, it goes on the defense for being the 28th ranked D, obviously.

I have no worries about Brunell learning/having learned/is still learning the system. None. Whatsoever.

i agree you lose as a team, but you also win as a team and when one side is hurting, you rely on the other to try and do what it takes to win. all we've seen is Brunell play exactly as if he still had the top 5 defense he's had while he's been here. and you're really not worried about Brunell and our offensive system? you must have him on fantasy then because the only stat you don't seem worried about is W-L.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by illdefined

i agree you lose as a team, but you also win as a team and when one side is hurting, you rely on the other to try and do what it takes to win. all we've seen is Brunell play exactly as if he still had the top 5 defense he's had while he's been here. and you're really not worried about Brunell and our offensive system? you must have him on fantasy then because the only stat you don't seem worried about is W-L.

Well, W-L is the one important stat of course, but W-L doesn't tell you how well a guy is playing, so its useless to regurgitate. We are 2-5. We should switch our roster with that of the Jets! I mean, they are 4-4.

I'm not sure how Brunell should play more like he has a weak defense. Should he throw more INTs? Should he remind his offensive line to not hold because they can't recover from it? Should he pay the defensive line to not rush hard? I kinda see what you are trying to say, but I don't think its reasonable to have the offense play out of character to rectify a situation created by the defense playing out of character all season long.

I think this is a great case of two wrongs not making a right.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm not sure how Brunell should play more like he has a weak defense. Should he throw more INTs? Should he remind his offensive line to not hold because they can't recover from it? Should he pay the defensive line to not rush hard? I kinda see what you are trying to say, but I don't think its reasonable to have the offense play out of character to rectify a situation created by the defense playing out of character all season long.

If Brunell could throw on the move into tight spaces to his primary receivers downfield, he A) wouldn't be throwing any more INTs than the guaranteed punts we've been getting checking down on 3rd and long B) COULD recover from holding penalties that you imply the same o-line as last year is suddenly getting a rash of.

were those two tosses in Dallas, deep, and over the middle, to Moss in the 4th quarter last year 'out of character' for Brunell? you bet. did they win us that game and get credited for 'turning around' the season? yep.

has Brunell even tried something like that this year, whatever it takes to win a game, even if its 'out of character'? no. so lo and behold, here we are with no season turnaround.

[Crat92]

Is Patrick Ramsey some where laughing?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Crat92

Is Patrick Ramsey some where laughing?

Yep, on the Jets' bench. He's laughing to keep from crying over the increased playing time he's seeing there.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by Crat92

Is Patrick Ramsey some where laughing?

Even though I am not a Redskins fan, but I do like the rest of Washington sports teams. There is something about Washington having players not playing so well here and once they are gone they become superstars (I know not all of them) and also the ones who do really well come here to suck and retire (Lloyd, Randel El, stackhouse and even Jordan well he was old to begin with). Brad Johnson won a super bowl, Trent Green did well in St. Louis and KC, you look at the basketball players we traded away, Webber, Hamilton...This city sure knows how to find the next big thing and then trade them away.

Ramsey on the other hand, is not one of those, he was never good. That guy lacked everything except for arm strength. He used to hand out INTs like candy on Halloween night.

Commentators keep talking about Dallas not having a good QB since Aikman left, when was the last time Washington had a great one and how many has Washington put under the center since late 90s.