Theismann made a great point during MNF.

[The Zimmermans]

i never said it was a fluke, but 10 wins is not a perfect season, you can't sit on ten wins, you must improve on ten wins, which we were attempting to do when we got saunders.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

i never said it was a fluke, but 10 wins is not a perfect season, you can't sit on ten wins, you must improve on ten wins, which we were attempting to do when we got saunders.

I agree.

My response was directed towards skinsfan69 who said our 11 wins were weak.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I agree.

My response was directed towards skinsfan69 who said our 11 wins were weak.

Sorry but they were weak. Yes 5-1 in the div. was good. Very good. And there were some good wins against Dallas, Seattle and NY. But looking back a close win against Philly w/out McNabb is weak. I mean that game was almost lost and Philly had Mike M. and Detmer! A win against St. Louis against it's 3rd stringer is weak. Barely beating Arizona is weak. A win against Chicago playing at home against rookie qb is weak. And don't get me started on the Tampa Game with that pee-wee league 41 yards passing. If the defense doesn't score in that game it's a loss. The bottom line is the defense has fallen apart this year and can no longer carry the offense. And personally I'm just tired of this out dated run first pound it down your throat approach when the line is not as good as advertised. If you ask me we need to start rebuilding in that area too. No young talent as back-ups.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but they were weak. Yes 5-1 in the div. was good. Very good. And there were some good wins against Dallas, Seattle and NY. But looking back a close win against Philly w/out McNabb is weak. I mean that game was almost lost and Philly had Mike M. and Detmer! A win against St. Louis against it's 3rd stringer is weak. Barely beating Arizona is weak. A win against Chicago playing at home against rookie qb is weak. And don't get me started on the Tampa Game with that pee-wee league 41 yards passing. If the defense doesn't score in that game it's a loss. The bottom line is the defense has fallen apart this year and can no longer carry the offense. And personally I'm just tired of this out dated run first pound it down your throat approach when the line is not as good as advertised. If you ask me we need to start rebuilding in that area too. No young talent as back-ups.

I think you should look around the league and see how other teams have won over the years. You'll probably find a lot of "weak" wins. At the end of the day though, a win is a win is a win.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but they were weak. Yes 5-1 in the div. was good. Very good. And there were some good wins against Dallas, Seattle and NY. But looking back a close win against Philly w/out McNabb is weak. I mean that game was almost lost and Philly had Mike M. and Detmer! A win against St. Louis against it's 3rd stringer is weak. Barely beating Arizona is weak. A win against Chicago playing at home against rookie qb is weak. And don't get me started on the Tampa Game with that pee-wee league 41 yards passing. If the defense doesn't score in that game it's a loss. The bottom line is the defense has fallen apart this year and can no longer carry the offense. And personally I'm just tired of this out dated run first pound it down your throat approach when the line is not as good as advertised. If you ask me we need to start rebuilding in that area too. No young talent as back-ups.

Division wins aren't weak in my opinion. I don't care who Philly was playing in that last game, they were bound and determined to ruin our season and they nearly did.

Arizona and St. Louis were both road wins which aren't easy.

Like someone already said, we lost our fair share of games which we could have won. There's a very fine line between winning and losing. All you can do is play the next team on your schedule. I don't see the point in nitpicking each win. They won 5 straight to reach the playoffs when everyone had left them for dead at 5-6.

I don't see why we have to keep defending what happened last year. It was what it was, a 10 win playoff season. This year is a different team and a different season.

Why can't we just keep last year in our memory as a good memory rather than dragging it into the mess of this year?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Division wins aren't weak in my opinion. I don't care who Philly was playing in that last game, they were bound and determined to ruin our season and they nearly did.

Arizona and St. Louis were both road wins which aren't easy.

Like someone already said, we lost our fair share of games which we could have won. There's a very fine line between winning and losing. All you can do is play the next team on your schedule. I don't see the point in nitpicking each win. They won 5 straight to reach the playoffs when everyone had left them for dead at 5-6.

I don't see why we have to keep defending what happened last year. It was what it was, a 10 win playoff season. This year is a different team and a different season.

Why can't we just keep last year in our memory as a good memory rather than dragging it into the mess of this year?

Agreed. Last year was brought up becasue some of those problems have are the same problems we are having now. A total lack of offense when it matters most.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Agreed. Last year was brought up becasue some of those problems have are the same problems we are having now. A total lack of offense when it matters most.

Don't forget about our D which is scraping the bottom of the league rankings right about now.

[Crat92]

IMO, Joe wore that single bar face-mask too long!