Reality check on Campbell

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

We are already lower than I thought we would go, so there's no place for us to go now but up. Joe Gibbs's opinion differs greatly from your aclaim, he has maintained on more than one ocasion he believes Campbell can win games for us now. If he's not ready to play, then let that be determined by his play on the field as opposed to one's opinion of his play before even having an opportunity to see him perform.

You're not thinking pessimistically enough if you think this is as low as things can go. Really, stretch your brain and picture some truly horrifying scenarios and you may feel a lot better about where we are.

I'd like to see some sources on your claims about Joe Gibbs' current opinion that Campbell can win games for us now, and in particular that Campbell can win more games than Brunell.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mheisig

You're not thinking pessimistically enough if you think this is as low as things can go. Really, stretch your brain and picture some truly horrifying scenarios and you may feel a lot better about where we are.

I'd like to see some sources on your claims about Joe Gibbs' current opinion that Campbell can win games for us now, and in particular that Campbell can win more games than Brunell.

He's right, we can go a lot lower. Without Brunell, this is a 1-6 team at best. 2-5 is quite disappointing, but changes for the sake of changes are only going to make us worse as a football team. I think we have to fix a lot of issues before we stuff the square peg that is Jason Campbell into the round hole that is our football team.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He's right, we can go a lot lower. Without Brunell, this is a 1-6 team at best. 2-5 is quite disappointing, but changes for the sake of changes are only going to make us worse as a football team. I think we have to fix a lot of issues before we stuff the square peg that is Jason Campbell into the round hole that is our football team.

i could say that without brunell this is a 7-0 team. there's no way to know until we can see what the other guy can or can't do.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by mheisig

You're not thinking pessimistically enough if you think this is as low as things can go. Really, stretch your brain and picture some truly horrifying scenarios and you may feel a lot better about where we are.

I'd like to see some sources on your claims about Joe Gibbs' current opinion that Campbell can win games for us now, and in particular that Campbell can win more games than Brunell.

I do believe what I said was we are already lower than I thought we would be at this point in the season based on the expectations we all had going in. I don't think there are many here who though we would be 2-5 after seven games. You're correct when you say I'm not thinking pessimistically enough because pessimism is not a point of contention. Had you taken the liberty to watch the Joe Gibbs show two weeks ago, George Michael asked Joe Gibbs about Campbell and the prospect of his playing at some point this season. Gibbs replied, and I [/QUOTE] " I talk to him all the time about it, we think the world of Jason and feel he can win games for us now" [UNQUOTE]. I am unable to provide you with a link because the quote was from a TV broadcast but I'm sure there are other witnesses amoung us. He, nor I said Campbell can/will win more games than Brunell, but many of us are of the opinion that he can't do much worse. What was horrifying was the 2-14 season we suffered the year Gibbs retired, that was the worst since the sixteen game season was introduced. Believe me I've witnessed far worse than what we see now, before Vince Lombardi, George Allen, or Joe Gibbs. This team is good compared to some I've witnessed being here through the years.