Give Props to Brunell

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

It was a great win but lets be serious about Brunell play he should have had aleast 3 to 4 interceptions. Brunell was very lucky that dallas couldnt catch those passes. As a veteran Brunell has to be smarter with the ball or it will come back and bite us. Its true that Cooley drop a perfect ball from Brunell, but Cooley saved his ass on that lob in the corner of the endzone, Brunell was late with that pass. In the first quarter when we were up 2-0 it was 3rd and 2 Brunell could have ran for the first down but instead threw the ball in the endzone lucky for us Henry drop the ball. Brunell has 191 yrds but 28 yard came on the last play of the first half on a dump off pass. Also in the second quarter when he threw the ball to Lloyd the ball was short Lloyd had to come back and get the ball because it was way undertrown. Brunell does not have the arm strengh to the ball downfield. One other point about Brunell the man has to start stepping up in the god d--n pocket so Samuels and Jansen arnt always hung out to dry. They are pushing the rushers up field but Brunell instead of stepping up in the pocket just keeps backing up and up. A great win love beating those fing cowgirls, but lets dont go overboard with Brunell he played a average game at best. Hail to the skins lets kick the eagles asses.

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

Also if people think Brunell played a great game,that means our standards for quarterback play is really low. We should expect better from a veteran. One other point to get the ball down field over 30 yards the skins had to have Randel el throw the damn ball because Brunell can throw it that far.

[RobH4413]

If there was one game not to hate on Brunell, this most definitly was it.

He found his moss-less receiving corps when we needed it. He moved the ball and scored 22 points on a decent Dallas defense.

QB is such a passionate subject for many... lets take a break for a week honestly. Campbell would have stepped in, gotten confused, and threw some costly INT's... and with the way our defense is playing... that would lose us the game. I know that's an assumption... but assuming a QB that's never played a snap in the NFL will throw picks isn't absurd by any means.

Gibbs won't give up on the season just yet. We're 1 game out of a wild card spot, and this is usually the point in the season when the redskins show up to play.

Take it easy folks.

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

No hate here on Brunell just giving the facts. Sometime the truth hurts. He completed what like 6 passes to his WR. Other teams miss their best Wr and still do well. We will be seeing on this sunday Mcnabb has miss Stallworth for most of the season and still hit his Wr more than 6 times a game. The skins score 20 on offense not 22. 2 came on a safety.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

It was a great win but lets be serious about Brunell play he should have had aleast 3 to 4 interceptions. Brunell was very lucky that dallas couldnt catch those passes. As a veteran Brunell has to be smarter with the ball or it will come back and bite us. Its true that Cooley drop a perfect ball from Brunell, but Cooley saved his ass on that lob in the corner of the endzone, Brunell was late with that pass. In the first quarter when we were up 2-0 it was 3rd and 2 Brunell could have ran for the first down but instead threw the ball in the endzone lucky for us Henry drop the ball. Brunell has 191 yrds but 28 yard came on the last play of the first half on a dump off pass. Also in the second quarter when he threw the ball to Lloyd the ball was short Lloyd had to come back and get the ball because it was way undertrown. Brunell does not have the arm strengh to the ball downfield. One other point about Brunell the man has to start stepping up in the god d--n pocket so Samuels and Jansen arnt always hung out to dry. They are pushing the rushers up field but Brunell instead of stepping up in the pocket just keeps backing up and up. A great win love beating those fing cowgirls, but lets dont go overboard with Brunell he played a average game at best. Hail to the skins lets kick the eagles asses.

Well I'll just repeat yet again what I and others have said here. If you want to count near INTs you have to count dropped passes by our receivers throughout the course of the year. If you want to take away yards then why heck why don't we just say sure Riggins had 166 yards rushing on 38 carries for an average of 4.4 yards per carry, but take away that 43 yard run and all he's averaging is 3.3 ypc. Brunell had some crips passes to Thrash over the middle Sunday also.

But then again, you're the same guy who said we'll never win so long as Snyder is the owner anyway so what does it matter who is the QB?

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

No hate here on Brunell just giving the facts. Sometime the truth hurts. He completed what like 6 passes to his WR. Other teams miss their best Wr and still do well. We will be seeing on this sunday Mcnabb has miss Stallworth for most of the season and still hit his Wr more than 6 times a game. The skins score 20 on offense not 22. 2 came on a safety.

14/23 192YDS 1-TD

I can't argue with you, sometimes the truth does hurt. If you want to compare Brunell with Mcnabb, then go right ahead. Totally different teams, totally different scenarios. By no means do I think Brunell is a glorious defender of the elite, supreme in all of his duties, crusher of the weak, etc...

He is however, the best chance one game at a time. For each game that we win, each game that we advance... Brunell is the best chance. Period. There is not an option to start thinking "long term" untill we're eliminated from contention, and I don't disagree with that philosophy at all. What if we just "gave up" last year at 5-6...

Let's be real, understand the situation, and stop all the bitching. His stats aren't bad (but I don't mean to use them as leverage, interpret them as you wish), he makes plays when we need them, and he's our best chance to win.

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

Yes im the same guy who been telling it like it is since april when i said this team is not built to win a championship. The way little Danny runs this team will never will a Super Bowl and that pains me to say that. How many times are we going to blow off the draft and just keep trying to do things by the FA route. Trading away picks like it doesnt matter espcially on Duckett, a third rounder cant get him on the field on short yardage, what a waste of a pick on someone who wont be here next year. Look hoe Dallas has rebuilt their Dline and LB threw the draft,unfortually they will get better. Ours wont unless we overspend in April like we always do for help. HMM let see Dallas bench Bleadsoe for Romo boy that looks like a bad move huh. Romo was a FA how many picks did that cost the cowboys or signing bonues??? We over spent on Campbell when he was projected as a 2 rounder at best or a late 3 rounder but no we had to give up 2 number ones and a second round pick too. How about this year trading a extra second for Rocky when he cant even get on the field unless it special teams. Giving up a third and a fourth rounders for LLoyd when the Eagels get stallworht for a 5 rounder i think and a LB. I could go on and on but you just keep drinking the koolaid and never question the moves this team makes. The so call front office is a joke{VINNY<GIBBS>LITTLE DANNY} We need a real football man to run this team not some fantasy football wantabe. Boy i love giving every dame FA this 10 million sure makes since to me how AA doing bench already, no surprise here he couldnt cover me lol. Carter he another damn waste. Lloyd ok but not worth 10 million signing bonus,niether is Randle el. I know it bothers you im right about all this. I can see the tone in your writing, that someone is actually questioning the crappy moves this team is making because your just a yes man for the skins. I love the skins but im tired of being the joke of the NFL. I wish I was wrong about these facts but you know and i know in our hearts we will never win unless Little Danny learns to let a real football run this team.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

Yes im the same guy who been telling it like it is since april when i said this team is not built to win a championship. The way little Danny runs this team will never will a Super Bowl and that pains me to say that. How many times are we going to blow off the draft and just keep trying to do things by the FA route. Trading away picks like it doesnt matter espcially on Duckett, a third rounder cant get him on the field on short yardage, what a waste of a pick on someone who wont be here next year. Look hoe Dallas has rebuilt their Dline and LB threw the draft,unfortually they will get better. Ours wont unless we overspend in April like we always do for help. HMM let see Dallas bench Bleadsoe for Romo boy that looks like a bad move huh. Romo was a FA how many picks did that cost the cowboys or signing bonues??? We over spent on Campbell when he was projected as a 2 rounder at best or a late 3 rounder but no we had to give up 2 number ones and a second round pick too. How about this year trading a extra second for Rocky when he cant even get on the field unless it special teams. Giving up a third and a fourth rounders for LLoyd when the Eagels get stallworht for a 5 rounder i think and a LB. I could go on and on but you just keep drinking the koolaid and never question the moves this team makes. The so call front office is a joke{VINNY<GIBBS>LITTLE DANNY} We need a real football man to run this team not some fantasy football wantabe. Boy i love giving every dame FA this 10 million sure makes since to me how AA doing bench already, no surprise here he couldnt cover me lol. Carter he another damn waste. Lloyd ok but not worth 10 million signing bonus,niether is Randle el. I know it bothers you im right about all this. I can see the tone in your writing, that someone is actually questioning the crappy moves this team is making because your just a yes man for the skins. I love the skins but im tired of being the joke of the NFL. I wish I was wrong about these facts but you know and i know in our hearts we will never win unless Little Danny learns to let a real football run this team.

I agree with alot of your post. In no way do I think this is a championship team right now. If I was in vegas, I would not bet the redskins to win it all this year. Right now our offseason philosophy needs to change, and I think we can all pretty much remain in a consensus on that one.

I don't know if your referring to me, but I'm not quite sure what you mean by being a "yes" man for the skins.

In my previous posts I'm talking about coaching philosophy. You play your players that give you the best chance to win each game, one game at a time, especially at this point in the season. That's how you have to play it. It has nothing to do with our past offseason woes, its right here, right now.

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

No im not talking about you. I'm with you on taking it on one game at a time. Play to win now that fine but another loss or two, we have to find out if Campbell can play. We better pray that he can or were done for. Listen my hearts says were going win 7 of the last eight, because that what i want. But my head telling me its not going to happen and im piss at how this team is built like crap every year.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

Yes im the same guy who been telling it like it is since april when i said this team is not built to win a championship. The way little Danny runs this team will never will a Super Bowl and that pains me to say that. How many times are we going to blow off the draft and just keep trying to do things by the FA route. Trading away picks like it doesnt matter espcially on Duckett, a third rounder cant get him on the field on short yardage, what a waste of a pick on someone who wont be here next year. Look hoe Dallas has rebuilt their Dline and LB threw the draft,unfortually they will get better. Ours wont unless we overspend in April like we always do for help. HMM let see Dallas bench Bleadsoe for Romo boy that looks like a bad move huh. Romo was a FA how many picks did that cost the cowboys or signing bonues??? We over spent on Campbell when he was projected as a 2 rounder at best or a late 3 rounder but no we had to give up 2 number ones and a second round pick too. How about this year trading a extra second for Rocky when he cant even get on the field unless it special teams. Giving up a third and a fourth rounders for LLoyd when the Eagels get stallworht for a 5 rounder i think and a LB. I could go on and on but you just keep drinking the koolaid and never question the moves this team makes. The so call front office is a joke{VINNY<GIBBS>LITTLE DANNY} We need a real football man to run this team not some fantasy football wantabe. Boy i love giving every dame FA this 10 million sure makes since to me how AA doing bench already, no surprise here he couldnt cover me lol. Carter he another damn waste. Lloyd ok but not worth 10 million signing bonus,niether is Randle el. I know it bothers you im right about all this. I can see the tone in your writing, that someone is actually questioning the crappy moves this team is making because your just a yes man for the skins. I love the skins but im tired of being the joke of the NFL. I wish I was wrong about these facts but you know and i know in our hearts we will never win unless Little Danny learns to let a real football run this team.

Paragraph breaks are your friend.

If you get a thrill calling me and others yes men go right ahead, I don't care. All I know is we've made some very good moves. We don't know what's going to happen with Duckett so we can't say "oh well he's gone anyway" Just because Campbell and Rocky aren't starting right now doesn't mean long term they're going to fail.

I would say I didn't want Rocky in the first place. I didn't think we needed another linebacker with that pick. I would have gone with a DT. Campbell looks like he's going to be great but we gave up probably one too many picks for him. I didn't like the Archuleta signing from the get go (though I didn't think he'd be this bad) and I wasn't happy that they let Omar Stoutmire go.

Thing is since you and others love to bash every single move and ignore the good ones. I choose to just ignore the bad one and focus on the good ones. If you're going to go 100% one way I'll go 100% the other way.

But like I said, if you want to think I'm just a yes man go right ahead. And if you don't think we'll ever win anyway why should you even care about the team?

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

The thing about Brunell believe it or not i want him to succeed. But he has to be smarter with the ball not just throwing it up for grab like he did on sunday or against the titan when we had a minute to go. Against dallas on the goal line when we were in FG range throwing the interception to williams. Against TB in the playoffs when we're running out the clock and he throw the interception across his body and across the field. As a vet i expect him to be smarter than the way he plays sometime. Cant he run for a first down once in a while instead of throwing ball away or maybe step up in the pocket like NFL QB does instead of backing up and throwing or rolling into a sack that all.,

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

i don't find it offensive at all...on the contrary, I was very pleased that he seemed to stretch the field in the first half, etc. very pleased. I would argue Mark Brunell set the bar so low with his performances throughout most of his tenure as a skin...objectively speaking his numbers here have been less than stellar- for a non project QB (as has his record).

Fair enough. Your point is very objective, although a bit undefended. Heres why:

This year his numbers have been stellar. People have made excuses for his numbers, usually fairly subjective reasoning, but then act like these excuses completely dismiss his numbers. Like the short easy passes explain the massive jump in completion %, but then seem to directly conflict the jump in yards per attempt. No one to date has been able to explain the jump in MB's yards per attempt because theres an assuption (an incorrect one) that he never throws deep.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

The thing about Brunell believe it or not i want him to succeed. But he has to be smarter with the ball not just throwing it up for grab like he did on sunday or against the titan when we had a minute to go. Against dallas on the goal line when we were in FG range throwing the interception to williams. Against TB in the playoffs when we're running out the clock and he throw the interception across his body and across the field. As a vet i expect him to be smarter than the way he plays sometime. Cant he run for a first down once in a while instead of throwing ball away or maybe step up in the pocket like NFL QB does instead of backing up and throwing or rolling into a sack that all.,

Fair enough. The INT against Dallas was awful. But I think sometimes the smart play is no play at all

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

I care because they are my team. I want to win. This team is not built to win. Campbell going to be great where the proof of that. I hope your right about him but i have my doubts. It might seem to you i bash every move they make is becasue they make so many stupid moves that it kills any good moves we make. Two step forward and three steps back.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Fair enough. Your point is very objective, although a bit undefended. Heres why:

This year his numbers have been stellar. People have made excuses for his numbers, usually fairly subjective reasoning, but then act like these excuses completely dismiss his numbers. Like the short easy passes explain the massive jump in completion %, but then seem to directly conflict the jump in yards per attempt. No one to date has been able to explain the jump in MB's yards per attempt because theres an assuption (an incorrect one) that he never throws deep.

I think the assumption that he doesn't throw deep has some legitimacy towards it. I think it was my homie tafkas that released the deep ball spread sheet, I'll look for it in a second.

He is however looking better as of late. That extra weak of rest definitly helped him out. He doesn't play well injured ever, and I think he's looking pretty sharp now.