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Old 11-14-2006, 01:30 PM   #1
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Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

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oh, and yes, the middle of the field is now an option. Look for ARE to get some quick catches over the middle, something we haven't seen from him all year cause MB couldn't get it to him.
MB didnt' throw it to him because he was in coverage. JC will throw it, and we'll see more interceptions during the next 6 weeks than we have all year. He'll learn from that experience, I'm sure.
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MB didnt' throw it to him because he was in coverage. JC will throw it, and we'll see more interceptions during the next 6 weeks than we have all year. He'll learn from that experience, I'm sure.
talk about hot & cold.
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:35 PM   #3
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talk about hot & cold.
All I'm saying is that I do think giving JC a chance is a good idea so that he can gain experience, but I'm upset that we had to make that choice. Playoffs, Superbowl... gone...
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Playoffs, Superbowl... gone...
Anyone that has been watching this team without the homer glasses knew that the chances for a Superbowl were gone six weeks ago.
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:45 PM   #5
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HHAHAHAA, and it is the cannons that are gonna distract Campbell, after TB scores???!! lolll
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All I'm saying is that I do think giving JC a chance is a good idea so that he can gain experience, but I'm upset that we had to make that choice. Playoffs, Superbowl... gone...
[He Whom Shall Not Be Named] was the real guarantee we wouldn't make the playoffs Hess. he could manage a team with an excellent defense but that was just completely not the case this year, and he just did NOT have what it takes to do any more than that.

Campbell will throw picks sure, but i'm also confident he can score at ANY time. imagine throwing a bomb on the RUN. on a blitz, instead of throwing it away, or to Betts, he'll throw downfield past the safeties. yeah, young QBs can do that.

all the receivers are REALLY going to try and get separation now, because they know Campbell has the arm to really get it to them. even out of the pocket. the whole character of this team has changed. watch and see.
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all the receivers are REALLY going to try and get separation now, because they know Campbell has the arm to really get it to them. even out of the pocket. the whole character of this team has changed. watch and see.
*saves post*

Unfortunately the defense STILL sucks, and the offensive line STILL holds. You have to love Randle El's versatility, but as a wideout he is worse than average. Lloyd has been even worse than him so far, although he's starting to make some big catches in 1 v 1 coverage (what he's paid to do).

Not saying they won't pick it up, just don't see any reason why they will.

But I appreaciate your conspiracy theroy that they weren't really trying for MB.
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Old 11-15-2006, 10:58 AM   #8
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*saves post*

Unfortunately the defense STILL sucks, and the offensive line STILL holds. You have to love Randle El's versatility, but as a wideout he is worse than average. Lloyd has been even worse than him so far, although he's starting to make some big catches in 1 v 1 coverage (what he's paid to do).

Not saying they won't pick it up, just don't see any reason why they will.

But I appreaciate your conspiracy theroy that they weren't really trying for MB.
oh i've got a ton of your posts saved as well.

i don't know how you can make a conclusion about any of our wide receivers this season other than Betts. if you are judging them by how often they get the ball, consider, for just a minute, maybe that's why no.8 was benched and not the receivers.

it was far from a conspiracy theory, its what happens when teams lose hope, which in spite of your FO stats, matters very much in a football game. by this time everyone in the league knew what to expect from no.8, every defensive coordinator, every defensive back and sadly our own receivers. Lloyd was the first to show his frustration at the offense.

Gibbs saw the team's spirit sag along with no.8's passes. and thats why he made the change, the theory you made earlier, that Gibbs listened to the fans for this change, is far more ridiculous than any comment about the team's morale. something neither you nor FO acknowledge.
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Old 11-15-2006, 11:05 AM   #9
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Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

One thing I can say, when Lloyds number has been called as a receiver... he's responds almost every time.

I've been very pleased with that acquisition.
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Old 11-15-2006, 11:20 AM   #10
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oh i've got a ton of your posts saved as well.

i don't know how you can make a conclusion about any of our wide receivers this season other than Betts. if you are judging them by how often they get the ball, consider, for just a minute, maybe that's why no.8 was benched and not the receivers.

it was far from a conspiracy theory, its what happens when teams lose hope, which in spite of your FO stats, matters very much in a football game. by this time everyone in the league knew what to expect from no.8, every defensive coordinator, every defensive back and sadly our own receivers. Lloyd was the first to show his frustration at the offense.

Gibbs saw the team's spirit sag along with no.8's passes. and thats why he made the change, the theory you made earlier, that Gibbs listened to the fans for this change, is far more ridiculous than any comment about the team's morale. something neither you nor FO acknowledge.
It's not a conclusion, it's just an evaluation to this point. Quality of play flucuates so much during a season, not only on a team level, but on a personal level. It would be silly to write the Lloyd and Randle El moves off this early since they have only been Redskins for 9 games. Even if they don't improve this year, recievers more than any other position can have extreme high years and extreme low years. Case in point, Mushin Muhammad. Top WR in the league in 2004, below average in 2005, and has performed very well so far this season.

But what we know about Randle El and Lloyd through nine games is this: if you remove them not getting the ball often, remove Randle El's versatility, remove all contract issues about how much they are paid because that really doesn't matter in-season, and you have two guys that as receivers though 9 games have played worse situationally than you would expect from a replacement level receiver.

DPAR is not a percetage stat, and although not getting the ball will affect totals, when you are NEGATIVE, there is no one to blame but yourself. Considering if you never saw the ball once, your DPAR would be 0.0, and Randle El and Lloyd have posted numbers worse than that so far, they have yet to 'get it done', if you will.

If you want to blame Mark Brunell for seriously ALL the team's problems, continue to do so, but with what he had to work with he did better than expected. It's his fault the team's morale is low, its his fault the defense can't get off the field, it's his fault that anytime we get something going offensively, we commit a stupid penalty.

If we have lost hope, we have nothing to blame but losing itself.
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:48 PM   #11
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If anything, Campbell has more pressure to perform well, in front of a home field Hess. Putting him on the road, in a situation when the season is over, pretty much means no pressure at all.

No one is asking him to win out, bc it is impossible, so there is no pressure at all.


lol, and cannons and flags arent gonna distract a qb, if anything it would be crowd noise .


Plus do you have any idea how loud, college football stadiums get? They can hold more than FedEX, and the enviroment is as bad.

Only thing Campbell needs to worry about is game speed.
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:50 PM   #12
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lol, and cannons and flags arent gonna distract a qb, if anything it would be noise .

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I'm saying that the cannons and flags get the crowd pumped - silly! Of course it's the noise that will distract him! Tampa fans know what they are doing! ASK THE EAGLES.
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:14 PM   #13
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No lol, he never was 15, even when he said he was.

Its called lying....
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:53 PM   #14
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If anything, Campbell has more pressure to perform well, in front of a home field Hess. Putting him on the road, in a situation when the season is over, pretty much means no pressure at all.

No one is asking him to win out, bc it is impossible, so there is no pressure at all.




Plus do you have any idea how loud, college football stadiums get? They can hold more than FedEX, and the enviroment is as bad.

Only thing Campbell needs to worry about is game speed.
Ok, hess, but you are missing all of my other points. This is the best time to bring Campbell in, PERIOD.
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All I'm saying is that I do think giving JC a chance is a good idea so that he can gain experience, but I'm upset that we had to make that choice. Playoffs, Superbowl... gone...


I think Joe Gibbs was upset that he had to make the change as well, but do you honestly think Brunell was going to lead this team to the playoffs this year? Forget the SB.
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