Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade?

Gmanc711 · 11-17-2006, 12:41 AM

Its a wash. Straight Simple. You cant look soley at this year because Portis was hurt. Bailey didnt want to be here, Portis was an incredible addition to our team, end of story, cut and dry. The 2nd rounder is questionable but otherwise, its a wash. Bailey has been great for them, Portis great for us.

That Guy · 11-17-2006, 01:49 AM

at the time keeping champ was NOT an option, so the question was would you rather get portis? was someone else available? or would you end up with nothing?

once lavar got his money, champ was gone, and if we waited to long he wouldn't have had any trade value, since his contract would expire.

GTripp0012 · 11-17-2006, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

That is why I am sick of it. People are just looking for blame where there isnt any.

So true...

Portis certainly has nothing to do with our failures. Well...he does, but only because he's hurt and has been hurt the entire season.

As for the trade, it was certainly a great one for Denver, and it's been a good one for us. Same as I expect the JC deal to be.

The great thing about trades in the NFL is that both teams can get a good deal. That's obviously not always the case (how happy do you think the Jets are to have Coles right now?), but in many cases, trades help both teams.

vaoutlaws2006 · 11-17-2006, 07:43 AM

there are some real bone heads on this site. even with giving a draft pick up to get CP we didnt get the short end of the stick with the trade. CP carried this team on his back last season. The last year bailey was here smoot outplayed him. PERIOD.

irish · 11-17-2006, 08:14 AM

Last year I thought the skins go thte better of the deal but this year it seems as if denver did so I guess that means on average the trade has been even.

marius · 11-17-2006, 08:42 AM

While Bailey is the best corner back in the league, he didn't want to be here. Portis has been exceptional for the Skins, busting his body time and time again for the team. He never quits on a play and puts his body on the line even if some of the schemes don't suit his style. The guy is an elite back who lays it out there for the team - what more could you ask for? How can you even question this?

#56fanatic · 11-17-2006, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Do we have to go through this again!?!?

my thoughts exactly. this is the 3rd year for this discussion. every time something goes good or bad with either one of these players, its who got the better deal. it is getting..no wait it is OLD.

hurrykaine · 11-17-2006, 09:08 AM

This one's easy. The assessment varies from year to year, but the whole impact from the won't be clear until after 5-6 years.
Last year, it seems that both teams got a good deal from the trade. This year on the other hand, it seems like Denver is up. Portis is on IR, and our secondary can't stop anyone. At this point, I'd give the edge to Denver considering they've gone deeper into the playoffs than us and they got a second round pick from the trade

BrunellMVP? · 11-17-2006, 09:15 AM

i don't know...i think gibbs misjudged Betts' talent- is portis our main stud? no question. is he dominant? i don't know- his average yards per carry isn't impressive (line issues...)
on the champ side, is he the best corner in the NFL? yes. are they tough to comeby? yes.

but lets look at it this way...without champ we were fine in coverage (last year) with a healthy springs, etc. without champ- denver's running game has sucked. that said, they win, we don't (consistently...)

hooskins · 11-17-2006, 09:29 AM

this thread makes me want to :vomit:

BrudLee · 11-17-2006, 09:37 AM

Who got the better end of the deal?

Second guessers everywhere.

The Zimmermans · 11-17-2006, 09:45 AM

Denver has running back issues right now, we have CB issues right now, which is more important, i guess it changes from case to case.

firstdown · 11-17-2006, 10:06 AM

Its is a done deal and an old one at that. If you live life looking back at things you did or should have done that will lead to a miserable life.

Bill B · 11-17-2006, 10:24 AM

I know a lot of people said that we had no option because Champ was going to leave here but I the Redskins could have franchised him and protected themselves that way by getting 2 first rounders for anyone wanting to sign him (or at least work out a deal if no team wanted to pony up 2 first rounder) - so the Redskins did have an option.

VTSkins897 · 11-17-2006, 10:24 AM

i'd say it would be a wash except for the fact that, like you guys are saying, champ did not want to be here.

it's good we got something for him.

i like clinton portis enough that i just don't care about who technically got the better part of the deal.

11-17-2006, 12:41 AM	#16
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade? Its a wash. Straight Simple. You cant look soley at this year because Portis was hurt. Bailey didnt want to be here, Portis was an incredible addition to our team, end of story, cut and dry. The 2nd rounder is questionable but otherwise, its a wash. Bailey has been great for them, Portis great for us. __________________ #21

11-17-2006, 01:49 AM	#17
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade? at the time keeping champ was NOT an option, so the question was would you rather get portis? was someone else available? or would you end up with nothing? once lavar got his money, champ was gone, and if we waited to long he wouldn't have had any trade value, since his contract would expire.

11-17-2006, 07:43 AM	#19
vaoutlaws2006 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fayettenam, NC Age: 53 Posts: 806	Re: Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade? there are some real bone heads on this site. even with giving a draft pick up to get CP we didnt get the short end of the stick with the trade. CP carried this team on his back last season. The last year bailey was here smoot outplayed him. PERIOD. __________________ The future is obviously right now!

11-17-2006, 08:14 AM	#20
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade? Last year I thought the skins go thte better of the deal but this year it seems as if denver did so I guess that means on average the trade has been even.

11-17-2006, 08:42 AM	#21
marius Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 136	Re: Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade? While Bailey is the best corner back in the league, he didn't want to be here. Portis has been exceptional for the Skins, busting his body time and time again for the team. He never quits on a play and puts his body on the line even if some of the schemes don't suit his style. The guy is an elite back who lays it out there for the team - what more could you ask for? How can you even question this?

11-17-2006, 09:08 AM	#23
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 52 Posts: 762	Re: Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade? This one's easy. The assessment varies from year to year, but the whole impact from the won't be clear until after 5-6 years. Last year, it seems that both teams got a good deal from the trade. This year on the other hand, it seems like Denver is up. Portis is on IR, and our secondary can't stop anyone. At this point, I'd give the edge to Denver considering they've gone deeper into the playoffs than us and they got a second round pick from the trade

11-17-2006, 09:15 AM	#24
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade? i don't know...i think gibbs misjudged Betts' talent- is portis our main stud? no question. is he dominant? i don't know- his average yards per carry isn't impressive (line issues...) on the champ side, is he the best corner in the NFL? yes. are they tough to comeby? yes. but lets look at it this way...without champ we were fine in coverage (last year) with a healthy springs, etc. without champ- denver's running game has sucked. that said, they win, we don't (consistently...) __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

11-17-2006, 09:29 AM	#25
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade? this thread makes me want to :vomit: __________________ Vacancy

11-17-2006, 09:37 AM	#26
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade? Who got the better end of the deal? Second guessers everywhere. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

11-17-2006, 09:45 AM	#27
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 41 Posts: 937	Re: Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade? Denver has running back issues right now, we have CB issues right now, which is more important, i guess it changes from case to case. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

11-17-2006, 10:06 AM	#28
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade? Its is a done deal and an old one at that. If you live life looking back at things you did or should have done that will lead to a miserable life.

11-17-2006, 10:24 AM	#29
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	Re: Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade? I know a lot of people said that we had no option because Champ was going to leave here but I the Redskins could have franchised him and protected themselves that way by getting 2 first rounders for anyone wanting to sign him (or at least work out a deal if no team wanted to pony up 2 first rounder) - so the Redskins did have an option.

11-17-2006, 10:24 AM	#30
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 42 Posts: 890	Re: Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade? i'd say it would be a wash except for the fact that, like you guys are saying, champ did not want to be here. it's good we got something for him. i like clinton portis enough that i just don't care about who technically got the better part of the deal.

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