Disconnect Between Players and Coaches

[That Guy]

cut the staff, stop with the bad signings and overpaying players (el's contract was a full 40% more than chicago offered... and i bet arch's deal was cose to 60+% more... i don't think it had to be that much higher, especially since his impact on our W-L column has been so very very small).

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by That Guy

cut the staff, stop with the bad signings and overpaying players (el's contract was a full 40% more than chicago offered... and i bet arch's deal was cose to 60+% more... i don't think it had to be that much higher, especially since his impact on our W-L column has been so very very small).

Cut the staff? You haven't joined the F Gibbs, Williams, and Saunders camp have you?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Cut the staff? You haven't joined the F Gibbs, Williams, and Saunders camp have you?

no, oops, hope it didn't come off that way. I meant cut back, like breaux etc. I think we've got too many people and i'm not sure if saunders is necessary, but he'll have 7 more games to show himself. (i still contend he's calling all these outside runs because they worked with 3 of the best pulling OL in KC, but we don't have a roaf, shields, and waters here - so he needs to adjust to what we've got, which is downhill running, more shotgun to protect the QB from dock and rabach in long passing situations, etc). All i know is gibbs offense worked much better than this one (which constantly abandons the runs and seems to suffer from bad playcalling often).

And for as great a quote as bugel may be, he hasn't made a single OL guy play better in 3 years, so i'm not sure he's really needed either.

maybe losing walker hurt our D too...

[The Zimmermans]

Originally Posted by That Guy

no, oops, hope it didn't come off that way. I meant cut back, like breaux etc. I think we've got too many people and i'm not sure if saunders is necessary, but he'll have 7 more games to show himself. (i still contend he's calling all these outside runs because they worked with 3 of the best pulling OL in KC, but we don't have a roaf, shields, and waters here - so he needs to adjust to what we've got, which is downhill running, more shotgun to protect the QB from dock and rabach in long passing situations, etc). All i know is gibbs offense worked much better than this one (which constantly abandons the runs and seems to suffer from bad playcalling often).

And for as great a quote as bugel may be, he hasn't made a single OL guy play better in 3 years, so i'm not sure he's really needed either.

maybe losing walker hurt our D too...

Do you truly feel that our offense is worse than it was last year?????

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

Do you truly feel that our offense is worse than it was last year?????

I was thinking the same thing.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

Do you truly feel that our offense is worse than it was last year?????

I don't think it's really well suited that we keep calling all these outside runs, and it makes it harder to sustain drives... i mean, duckett is averaging 5.5 yards per carry (or something silly) and he's getting like 5 carries a game. last year we used that to take ToP. 3 and outs don't help us win, and throwing 34 passes in a rookie QB's first start is kinda questionable.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by That Guy

I don't think it's really well suited that we keep calling all these outside runs, and it makes it harder to sustain drives... i mean, duckett is averaging 5.5 yards per carry (or something silly) and he's getting like 5 carries a game. last year we used that to take ToP. 3 and outs don't help us win, and throwing 34 passes in a rookie QB's first start is kinda questionable.

The outside runs are part of Saunders offense that helped P. Holmes and L.Johnson set records. We can't run up the middle all the time. You have to be diverse in your running game. And what are we suppose to do when we get behind. Run? People keep crying about the 34 passes. TB held the ball the whole game and they got ahead.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

Do you truly feel that our offense is worse than it was last year?????

That Guy has made the point that Gibbs' offense maximized our talent potential offensively so we could spend more of our focus and efforts on D.

This year the complexity is different. We allocated more money/resources to our offense and brought in Saunders to maximize that. His playcalling has on the whole, improved the offense over last year, cut turnovers, moves the ball, etc. But his situational playcalling is killing us (theres a HUGE discrepency between our yards rating and our points rating), and I think whether or not we are better than last year depends on if you expected our offense to shoot up the charts or not based on the acquistions of two WRs.

I believe that Saunders is not really a big problem in the grand scheme of things, although I as a fan prefer Gibbs' system. But give Saunders some credit, out of 10 games played, we've been right with the opponents' offense at least into the 2nd half 8 times.

It's gotten to the point were we no longer need a dominant D to win. Just a respectable one.

C'mon Gregg Williams, get it done.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's gotten to the point were we no longer need a dominant D to win. Just a respectable one.

C'mon Gregg Williams, get it done.

Seriously. Before the season I would have choked if someone told me that we'd be the 16th ranked D. Now, I'd kill for the 16th ranked D.