Anyone know what happened to Czaban on Sportsnet?

[Hog1]

In all seriousness, I think many fans are looking for retribution for a bad team. They want "justice" in the form of an admission from the team that affirms the team has wronged them by playing like sh... They want to be compensated in some way for giving there "fan devotion" to the team, and recieving betrayal in return. I don't think that is going to happen.

I think if the team could figure out the problem, they would. I think they know the answers and will rectify it. However, it may not be easy? We'll see. If you start calling out the problems by position, and player, you get a T.O. situation.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sorry but I'm not interested in questions that I already know the answer to. His questioning of Brunell had one intention, to piss him off. Mission accomplished I guess. That's not professional journalism in my opinion.

What some may think of as being hard hitting or shocking I think it's just immature.

The thing is, Czaban himself would probably tell you he's not trying to be a "professional journalist". That likely was never his intention. When a team in this position plays like this, there aren't many questions that won't "piss them off."

I like him. As someone else said, the kool-aid drinkers and apologists who regurgitate the company line are obviously offended by him. He's not a lockstep Gibbs defender, he doesn't bow at the alter of Dan Snyder's Media Empire, and he plays the role that many fans want to see -- the naysayer, the guy who's pissed off at his team who says what he really thinks, and who, at fan websites gets people to talk and write about him in threads just like this.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The thing is, Czaban himself would probably tell you he's not trying to be a "professional journalist". That likely was never his intention. When a team in this position plays like this, there aren't many questions that won't "piss them off."

I like him. As someone else said, the kool-aid drinkers and apologists who regurgitate the company line are obviously offended by him. He's not a lockstep Gibbs defender, he doesn't bow at the alter of Dan Snyder's Media Empire, and he plays the role that many fans want to see -- the naysayer, the guy who's pissed off at his team who says what he really thinks, and who, at fan websites gets people to talk and write about him in threads just like this.

Why does it always have to be black and white? It's always the apologists vs. the naysayers.

I'd say there's a lot of gray area there that the majority of people fall into.

Personally I'm not into hearing someone towing the company line, because of that I rarely visit Redskins.com and when I do I take everything I read there with a grain of salt, but at the same time I'm not in favor of some idiot trying to rile up players in interviews or fans up in the press box getting on the case of national sports writers.

In the end neither extreme accomplishes anything.

[irish]

I'll take the rile up slant every time. At least if an interviewer says something that gets a player going the fan may get some nugget of truth or insight that they might not otherwise get. And rile up does not always have to mean bad, it could be when things are going great and a question gets a player riled up with excitement.

I am just wondering if there are any cities out there that dont have fans of teams in the press box. My guess is there are none. I suspect every one of those people were interested in getting the job because they are fans. Why else would they want the job? Having fans in the booth makes the game more fun and interesting. You get the good, bad & ugly. Unfortunately for the skins there has been too much bad & ugly lately. This will be reflected by the announcer fan in the booth. I'd rather listen to announcer fans in the press box do the game than a disconnected national announcer.

[Daseal]

Watching the post game press conference makes me sick every week. Not a single person in that room had the balls to ask about Brunell. They tried to get to it in a round about fashion, making the question even easier for Gibbs to dodge.

The point is, the media should hold little to no allegiance to the team and should be working for the fans. We want to know why we have a floundering QB in there when the season is over. We want to know why our defense can't stop anyone, we want to know why we can't find a running game.

But when the headcoach and owner of the team own the media, everyone loses.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

I'll take the rile up slant every time. At least if an interviewer says something that gets a player going the fan may get some nugget of truth or insight that they might not otherwise get. And rile up does not always have to mean bad, it could be when things are going great and a question gets a player riled up with excitement.

I am just wondering if there are any cities out there that dont have fans of teams in the press box. My guess is there are none. I suspect every one of those people were interested in getting the job because they are fans. Why else would they want the job? Having fans in the booth makes the game more fun and interesting. You get the good, bad & ugly. Unfortunately for the skins there has been too much bad & ugly lately. This will be reflected by the announcer fan in the booth. I'd rather listen to announcer fans in the press box do the game than a disconnected national announcer.

What other teams allow fans in the pressbox?? Outside of the Skins I've never heard of such a thing.

[The Zimmermans]

I have to admit, Czaban has made me feel a little better after each loss when I listen to him, at least he does that.....let's the fans though that he is thinkin the same things as them.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What other teams allow fans in the pressbox?? Outside of the Skins I've never heard of such a thing.

Pittsburgh, Tampa, Cleveland, Cinncy, Balt. Those are just the ones I know.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

I don't think he's trying to be professional, just trying to make an interesting show. He's on the radio every morning, you know radio guys are just there to entertain us fans. You should hear the radio in new york....i'm sure you have, it's rediculous the stuff they say. None of it is rational, just spur of the moment nonsense that the fans wanna hear. I think Steve was just saying what everyone wanted him to say. It wasn't classy i know that, but he doesn't need to stay professional.

Now I would love to hear what they are saying in NY today.

[The Zimmermans]

Bench Eli and Bring back Simms

[dmek25]

why? the new yorkers arent that far from being philadelphians

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What other teams allow fans in the pressbox?? Outside of the Skins I've never heard of such a thing.

I think he means the sports writers are by in large fans. But i don't really agree with that. Sports writers for major papers like the Post don't take the job because they are fans of a certain team. They take a job because it furthers their career. In fact they often take jobs in spite of being a fan and have to work to surpress that fandom.

[irish]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I think he means the sports writers are by in large fans. But i don't really agree with that. Sports writers for major papers like the Post don't take the job because they are fans of a certain team. They take a job because it furthers their career. In fact they often take jobs in spite of being a fan and have to work to surpress that fandom.

I agree about writers for the Post , etc. They are writers and took the job for the writing not because they are fans.

He means guys like Czab that are not writers or journalists but rather sports talk show hosts (more of an entertainer) that have pre & post game shows where they may or may not get to directly ask a player or coach a question.

[Rock Your Face]

So what's the problem from the 'Skins' eyes with having a "fan", ie Czabe, ask questions to Brunell? They have 3 of the biggest fans calling their games.

I think the bigger isssue here is not whether Czabe is a journalist or not (I really do not think he is), but how the 'Skins attempt to, and succeed, in crushing anyone that is crtitical of the team.

[70Chip]

I don't buy Czaban as "the voice of the fans". He has never said anything that represents my views. Though, I guess the fans who don't know anything about the game need someone to speak for them as well. Czaban is a moronic jackass. He was trying to play the role of Barney Badass and he found out who has the real power. I love seeing dimwits like that get put in their place. Good for Comcast. I think they should put Tony Mcgee on that show. He rules.