So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery??

NFLNetwork · 11-22-2006, 11:35 AM

So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? Im starting to wonder if he'll develope into a good player or will always be OK. What do you guys think?

dall-assblows · 11-22-2006, 11:42 AM

kidwell?

#56fanatic · 11-22-2006, 11:43 AM

You resign Dockery. A big strong quick guard, are you kidding. there are five people on that line and dockery seems to be getting the abuse. Samuels gets beat two or three times a game and Jansen hasn't been playing his best either. Rabach seems to be struggling. when the entire line struggles, you can't blame one guy. Last year during the win streak everyone was saying what a beast he was because he out there leading on run plays, pulling and mashing people. now all of the sudden people want to get rid of him. i just dont see it.

Schneed10 · 11-22-2006, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

You resign Dockery. A big strong quick guard, are you kidding. there are five people on that line and dockery seems to be getting the abuse. Samuels gets beat two or three times a game and Jansen hasn't been playing his best either. Rabach seems to be struggling. when the entire line struggles, you can't blame one guy. Last year during the win streak everyone was saying what a beast he was because he out there leading on run plays, pulling and mashing people. now all of the sudden people want to get rid of him. i just dont see it.

People are talking about getting rid of him because he's the only one of the five up for free agency this year. Nobody's saying Dock is the reason the line has disappointed.

The real question is can we find an upgrade? If we can, then it may be worth it. But it might be difficult to do so, given the importance of continuity along the line.

I expect Gibbs & Co to define their identity in the next 6 weeks. Until we make any decisions on Dockery, we should see how the line shapes up coming down the stretch here. Remember 2004? We started 3-7 but finished 3-2. The line, Ramsey, and the entire offense started to get in sync. With Campbell in the fold, it's quite possible we look much better by year's end, and that the entire offensive line plays better. I'd reserve judgment on Dock for now.

Daseal · 11-22-2006, 12:06 PM

CONSISTENCY! Leave the line alone. Dock is one of the better players this year.

Samuels has had bad games, but he seems to be getting his form back. Jansen is a turnstyle, Thomas isn't the same, and Rabach is mediocre. I'm fine drafting any of these positions, as long as we don't expect a rookie to start.

freddyg12 · 11-22-2006, 12:13 PM

I brought up Dock in another thread this morning, cause I think this question will be one of the biggest of our offseason. I say sign him, however this is what we'll be faced with:
1) Maybe due to a weak fa class, he'll test the market & get a big offer.
2) will we be in the same position as we were w/Smoot & Pierce where we had opportunities to better the offer, but didn't?
If we end up in 2) I don't know how much he's worth. He's been inconsistent yet shown he can play well too. If somebody offers him big $ it will be a tough decision. I hope we can sign him at a reasonable amount & keep the line together.

JWsleep · 11-22-2006, 12:24 PM

Keep him if we can...I doubt he'll get BIG money, given the play of the line in general, but he may get an offer. Consistency and youth here. Plus, we have needs elsewhere, and worrying about fixing the o-line will detract from that.

MTK · 11-22-2006, 12:30 PM

Depends on who may be available. Dockery is solid but nothing spectacular. I've been holding out hope he would really come on but it appears that he may never be anything more than a serviceable LG. He definitely isn't irreplaceable, that's for sure.

Gmanc711 · 11-22-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

CONSISTENCY! Leave the line alone. Dock is one of the better players this year.

Samuels has had bad games, but he seems to be getting his form back. Jansen is a turnstyle, Thomas isn't the same, and Rabach is mediocre. I'm fine drafting any of these positions, as long as we don't expect a rookie to start.

That first word is my only opinion of what the Redskins should do this offseason. We've tried everything else in the books.

Hog1 · 11-22-2006, 12:35 PM

Agreed, keep him if you can.
At the moment it's hard to pick out what to do with the O line as they are having a REAL bad season all around. I am getting real tired of seeing jail breaks up the gut of our line. Historically, Doc, and Samuels have been sometime week links and I am more than a little concerned about JC's blind side against pass rush. Samuels had a good week against TB as Rice was out. It may have been a different outing for JC if he was in?
However, there is an answer and it must be done, because they as a group are killing us. They looked C-ish against TB, and they suck. It won't be that way against Julius Peppers, and company.

The Zimmermans · 11-22-2006, 12:44 PM

Oh God, I am very worried about betts being able to pick up the blitz this weekend, it's not looking too positive for campbell's development against that front 4. Up the gut pressure is ok as long as they don't get any blindside licks on campbell, saunders better have a good pass protection scheme lined up, and betts better get his head out of his you know what or duckett will replace him before he can spell FUMBLE.

dmek25 · 11-22-2006, 12:49 PM

line chemistry is a big key to successful offense. keep dockery. but if rabach doesn't renegotiate, he might be walking

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-22-2006, 01:22 PM

I prefer to keep him for several reasons: (1) we haven't done too well in free agency lately; (2) we have more pressing needs than G and I'd like to see us spend a draft pick on an area of need; (3) Dockery will not command a huge contract; (4) unlike draft picks and free agents, Dockery is familiar with the system and our players; (5) Dockery is still young and has a lot of potential; and (6) I hate seeing us refuse to pay our own guys while freespending on other teams' guys.

The Zimmermans · 11-22-2006, 01:24 PM

I also think it would send a good message to the rest of the guys on the team, that times are changing, and we are attempting to become a more loyal franchise towards our players like we once were. It's tough to play hard for a losing franchise like the skins if they know they are expedable, while if they knew that the team valued them, then that might provide something to play for.

skins009 · 11-22-2006, 04:47 PM

Dockery has got to go. He's no good, he doesn't play up to his weight and is terrible in space. The question is can we upgrade? A solid organization with a good personnel department (which the redskins don't have) could find a good guard in the 3,4, or even 5th round of the draft.

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freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? I brought up Dock in another thread this morning, cause I think this question will be one of the biggest of our offseason. I say sign him, however this is what we'll be faced with: 1) Maybe due to a weak fa class, he'll test the market & get a big offer. 2) will we be in the same position as we were w/Smoot & Pierce where we had opportunities to better the offer, but didn't? If we end up in 2) I don't know how much he's worth. He's been inconsistent yet shown he can play well too. If somebody offers him big $ it will be a tough decision. I hope we can sign him at a reasonable amount & keep the line together.

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JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? Keep him if we can...I doubt he'll get BIG money, given the play of the line in general, but he may get an offer. Consistency and youth here. Plus, we have needs elsewhere, and worrying about fixing the o-line will detract from that. __________________ Hail from Houston!

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Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? CONSISTENCY! Leave the line alone. Dock is one of the better players this year. Samuels has had bad games, but he seems to be getting his form back. Jansen is a turnstyle, Thomas isn't the same, and Rabach is mediocre. I'm fine drafting any of these positions, as long as we don't expect a rookie to start. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

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MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,845	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? Depends on who may be available. Dockery is solid but nothing spectacular. I've been holding out hope he would really come on but it appears that he may never be anything more than a serviceable LG. He definitely isn't irreplaceable, that's for sure. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? Agreed, keep him if you can. At the moment it's hard to pick out what to do with the O line as they are having a REAL bad season all around. I am getting real tired of seeing jail breaks up the gut of our line. Historically, Doc, and Samuels have been sometime week links and I am more than a little concerned about JC's blind side against pass rush. Samuels had a good week against TB as Rice was out. It may have been a different outing for JC if he was in? However, there is an answer and it must be done, because they as a group are killing us. They looked C-ish against TB, and they suck. It won't be that way against Julius Peppers, and company. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

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The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 41 Posts: 937	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? Oh God, I am very worried about betts being able to pick up the blitz this weekend, it's not looking too positive for campbell's development against that front 4. Up the gut pressure is ok as long as they don't get any blindside licks on campbell, saunders better have a good pass protection scheme lined up, and betts better get his head out of his you know what or duckett will replace him before he can spell FUMBLE. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

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dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? line chemistry is a big key to successful offense. keep dockery. but if rabach doesn't renegotiate, he might be walking __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? I prefer to keep him for several reasons: (1) we haven't done too well in free agency lately; (2) we have more pressing needs than G and I'd like to see us spend a draft pick on an area of need; (3) Dockery will not command a huge contract; (4) unlike draft picks and free agents, Dockery is familiar with the system and our players; (5) Dockery is still young and has a lot of potential; and (6) I hate seeing us refuse to pay our own guys while freespending on other teams' guys.

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The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 41 Posts: 937	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? I also think it would send a good message to the rest of the guys on the team, that times are changing, and we are attempting to become a more loyal franchise towards our players like we once were. It's tough to play hard for a losing franchise like the skins if they know they are expedable, while if they knew that the team valued them, then that might provide something to play for. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

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skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? Dockery has got to go. He's no good, he doesn't play up to his weight and is terrible in space. The question is can we upgrade? A solid organization with a good personnel department (which the redskins don't have) could find a good guard in the 3,4, or even 5th round of the draft.

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