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[Citizens for 81]

It's funny how the thread that makes the most sense gets the fewest posts.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Citizens for 81

It's funny how the thread that makes the most sense gets the fewest posts.

LOL talking sense isn't very fun I guess.

It's more fun to toss out ridiculous and off the wall takes than to think realistic.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Citizens for 81

It's funny how the thread that makes the most sense gets the fewest posts.

Just shows the true mentality of some around here I guess.

[soccercycbk]

Mr. Gibbs needs to do some serious evaluating before next season and he needs to change something because he hasn't been getting it done, but I definetly agree..we need to keep Joe, Greg, and Al. If we keep Al there's no reason our offense shouldn't improve greatly and it's certain we will be focused on improving our Defense. Nonetheless, i'm tired of being patient and the whole "there's always next year" mentality, damnit.

[onlydarksets]

There are definitely some players on the roster that it wouldn't hurt the team to cut. However, we should really be focusing on depth. We did what turned out to be a great job backing up CP at running back. We need to get a decent backup for JC, along with some help for the O-line and secondary. Ideally we would do the latter two through the draft, but...

[gibbs4life]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Isn't that a bit what the problem is now? Shuffling players and personnel in and out so much, that the team nor the coaches can really develop a chemistry with each other. I believe that there shouldn't be any major shake ups, just some changes here and there (Like CB for the love of God) and that for the most part things stay the same. So that the older players can teach the newer ones and so that Al Saunder's Bible doesn't look like a bunch of random chicken scratch to everyone on the offense.

Everyone pretty much knows what the major problems of this season were, so fix them for next season. Instead of the whole, "kill 'em all and let god sort it out" method, of getting rid of everyone and starting over and pray that your high priced players live up to their paycheck.

yes somebody who sees it for what it is and what we truly need to do.
i agree...

[irish]

I dont think Gibbs should go because this teams needs some kind of continuity that it does not have and firing Gibbs work help in that department. Any talk that Gibbs should stay because he won 3 super bowls is foolish. The last one was almost 15 years ago. Thats ancient history.

I do have a feeling that somebody will be made the scapegoat for this year and I think it will be Williams. I dont think it should be done but I have a feeling it will.

[gibbs4life]

Originally Posted by soccercycbk

Mr. Gibbs needs to do some serious evaluating before next season and he needs to change something because he hasn't been getting it done, but I definetly agree..we need to keep Joe, Greg, and Al. If we keep Al there's no reason our offense shouldn't improve greatly and it's certain we will be focused on improving our Defense. Nonetheless, i'm tired of being patient and the whole "there's always next year" mentality, damnit.

it does get a lttle tiresome doesn,t it..
let,s see who can be the new 100 million dollar redskin.so it seems.
defense is our real proble giving up 200+ yards yesterday..

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by irish

I dont think Gibbs should go because this teams needs some kind of continuity that it does not have and firing Gibbs work help in that department. Any talk that Gibbs should stay because he won 3 super bowls is foolish. The last one was almost 15 years ago. Thats ancient history.

I do have a feeling that somebody will be made the scapegoat for this year and I think it will be Williams. I dont think it should be done but I have a feeling it will.

I guess I'll make my way over to the 'make sense' thread.

I could see Gregg Williams and Steve Jackson going...and then Blache and a few lieutenants taking over.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Funny how after every loss someone wants someone fired or cut.

Relax, stop with the knee-jerk overreactions.

Are they really knee jerk reactions when people have been saying the same thing after all 8 of our loses?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Are they really knee jerk reactions when people have been saying the same thing after all 8 of our loses?

Wanting everyone fired and/or cut is knee-jerk and ridiculous.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Wanting everyone fired and/or cut is knee-jerk and ridiculous.

I don't think many people honestly want everyone fired, and I would agree with you that doing that would be a knee jerk reaction. But if each loss seems to be for similiar reasons and people are calling for a change regarding those reasons, then I think they're right.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Gibbs isn't missing tackles, blowing coverages, making rookie mistakes, completing a better pct. beyond 15 yards than he is under 10, or getting hammy injuries in pregame warmups.

He merely watches as GW's D fades back into the abyss as quickly as it emerged.

I understand the argument that the players make the plays or the mistakes on the field.

But, this reasoning is flawed because Joe Gibbs wasn't making the throws, running the ball, catching the TDs and shutting down offenses when we won three Super Bowls. Yet, he is the person most closely tied to those championships.

So, Gibbs is as responsible for our dismal season as much as anyone else is. You can't simply say, "He's not on the field missing plays."

[Chief X_Phackter]

I agree, no wholesale changes. Keep Gibbs, he will turn this thing around. Some of the free agents he brought in haven't worked out (most have) but you can't argue with his draft picks. Keep Saunders, his offensive scheme has proven to work in the past. The players just need to learn it and be in it for more than a year. I believe Gibbs brought in Saunders so he could be his successor when Gibbs decides to hang it up in a couple years. Keep GW, but fix the pass rush and secondary. Greg Blache will end up taking over as the DC when GW leaves, at least that will leave us some continuity on that side of the ball. This year has been hard to watch, but I believe we are on the right track and it will be proven next year.

[MonkFan4Life]

I think we should keep the team together. Yeah the D went downhill but don't throw it all away now. The offense, we HAVE to let Saunders come back next year. If you fire him then it's like you really had no plan at all, besides it's good for Jason's development. Keep your wideouts, however, I feel they need to go and get a big wide receiver. Someone about 6'3 or so. A big possesion guy. I know we're thinking Lloyd is tall, no he isn't ! I mean like TO/Chad Johnson big. Find a DE to go along with Carter, a young guy that can be groomed into the system. Find either a MLB to replace Marshall (so he can move back to the outside) or find a better OLB if McIntosh isn't the answer. Maybe we'll find out in the coming weeks how well he can play. Let's keep the squad together and see what needs to be fixed and work it out. Get in to Training Camp earlier than this year. And when I say Training Camp I mean TRAINING CAMP NOT SUMMER CAMP ! Joe Gibbs himself said that he didn't go as hard as they usually do, F THAT ! Get out there and get these guys in shape. I don't care what kind of shape they come in, have a regimen in place to get your guys in the best shape that they can get in.

The players and the coaches have to get that killer mentality back into them. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS !!!!! Let's bring 'em back and win again !!!!!