Im done....Gibbs must go.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

So you're not? You're not just following everyone else? You think this team is going to get better based on blind faith, but you're somehow different than people how look at this team going down the crapper and worry?

And I really don't think any of us that don't have much faith don't still love this team. Likewise, I'd be thrilled if Gibbs could turn it all around. I'd be suprised, but I'd be happy.

Blind faith is a redundant phrase. All faith is blind, considering faith is based on the beliefs of things unseen. With a man who has been more than successful coaching in this league and has championships to prove it, and can go to another sport and put together a championship team there as well, it's really not so strange why people would be patient with Gibbs. Oh, and don't give me the same tired "the game has changed since he coached in the 80's"....nothing has dramatically changed so much that a coaching mind like Joe Gibbs can't adjust to. If anything that has changed is been the attitudes of the players. It's became too much of a "me" type of game...nobody has loyality or patience to stick it out with one team anymore. In my opinion, it is tougher for guys like Gibbs to coach up good teams....NOT because of the game, but because of the players.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Blind faith is a redundant phrase. All faith is blind, considering faith is based on the beliefs of things unseen. With a man who has been more than successful coaching in this league and has championships to prove it, and can go to another sport and put together a championship team there as well, it's really not so strange why people would be patient with Gibbs. Oh, and don't give me the same tired "the game has changed since he coached in the 80's"....nothing has dramatically changed so much that a coaching mind like Joe Gibbs can't adjust to. If anything that has changed is been the attitudes of the players. It's became too much of a "me" type of game...nobody has loyality or patience to stick it out with one team anymore. In my opinion, it is tougher for guys like Gibbs to coach up good teams....NOT because of the game, but because of the players.

So its the players, not the coach. One question, who ultimately selected these players? And two, under your philosophy a head coach should never ever be fired, because its not the coach, its the players. Oh yeah, by the way, Gibbs won 3 superbowls with a qualified GM, not with him and Vinny coming up with a "Redskin Score."

[mason4415]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Blind faith is a redundant phrase. All faith is blind, considering faith is based on the beliefs of things unseen. With a man who has been more than successful coaching in this league and has championships to prove it, and can go to another sport and put together a championship team there as well, it's really not so strange why people would be patient with Gibbs. Oh, and don't give me the same tired "the game has changed since he coached in the 80's"....nothing has dramatically changed so much that a coaching mind like Joe Gibbs can't adjust to. If anything that has changed is been the attitudes of the players. It's became too much of a "me" type of game...nobody has loyality or patience to stick it out with one team anymore. In my opinion, it is tougher for guys like Gibbs to coach up good teams....NOT because of the game, but because of the players.

if you don't think the game has changed at all since the '80's, then you must be blind yourself!