Bill B Presents TMC's Pick the Position Poll

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

What's hard to understand here? Williams and Blache don't let the ends chase the QB up the field on every down. They ask them to play gap control on 1st and 10 and 2nd and mediums/shorts. Take a look at the D next time, you don't see Carter and Daniels running upfield like crazy right off the snap unless it's an obvious passing situation. They kind of keep themselves in front of the tackle they're going against, that way they're able to work off the block and get to a RB coming through either gap. With all the screens being called in the league these days, having your ends just chase the QB all day is a bad idea. Your ends constantly get drawn up the field, the ball goes over their heads, and suddenly the defense has lost containment and the screen goes for a big gainer. Or on draw plays to an RB, same thing, the ends come up the field and suddenly the defense is vulnerable on the edges.

They're not asked to chase down the QB with abandon like some ends around the league are. If Freeney were a Redskin, you'd be wondering what the hell is wrong with him when he only put up 8 sacks.

In a Gregg Williams defense, you know a DE is having success by looking at his tackle numbers, not by looking at his sacks. If a DE is controlling his gaps then he'll make plenty of tackles, keeping RBs from gaining more than two yards, and forcing the defense into second and long.

If we had a secondary, we'd be able to blitz to get our sacks. We need CB SS and DT, our ends are more than adequate.

nice post

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

nice post

Thank you.

My whole thing here is that Gregg Williams' system is still pure genius. It has worked for so many years, and still will. Perhaps he got cocky and let the wrong players get away (Ryan Clark), and injuries hurt him in his secondary. But the system will still work if he can get another good safety who communicate well with Taylor, if he can get a run stopping force in the middle of the defensive line, and if he can get the CB play he needs.

Maybe that CB play comes from Springs next year, or maybe we sign/draft somebody, I dunno. But with those three things, GW will have us back on top. We don't need ends and we don't need LBs; at first glance the stats tell you that the ends and LBs are having down years. But that's more due to the weakness at other positions spilling over and affecting their play. It's still a team sport, even the great Marcus Washington is going to have a down year when he doesn't have DTs keeping linemen and fullbacks away from him.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Thank you.

My whole thing here is that Gregg Williams' system is still pure genius. It has worked for so many years, and still will. Perhaps he got cocky and let the wrong players get away (Ryan Clark), and injuries hurt him in his secondary. But the system will still work if he can get another good safety who communicate well with Taylor, if he can get a run stopping force in the middle of the defensive line, and if he can get the CB play he needs.

Maybe that CB play comes from Springs next year, or maybe we sign/draft somebody, I dunno. But with those three things, GW will have us back on top. We don't need ends and we don't need LBs; at first glance the stats tell you that the ends and LBs are having down years. But that's more due to the weakness at other positions spilling over and affecting their play. It's still a team sport, even the great Marcus Washington is going to have a down year when he doesn't have DTs keeping linemen and fullbacks away from him.

This season has to be a bit of a wake up call for GW, and that's probably not a bad thing. I think he definitely was getting full of himself. He had taken a squad of mostly castoffs and unknowns and turned them into one of the league's best defenses. Now it's time for him to re-evaluate things and now that his ego has been taken down a notch hopefully he can get back to what helped him build great defenses in the past.

[The Zimmermans]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Thank you.

My whole thing here is that Gregg Williams' system is still pure genius. It has worked for so many years, and still will. Perhaps he got cocky and let the wrong players get away (Ryan Clark), and injuries hurt him in his secondary. But the system will still work if he can get another good safety who communicate well with Taylor, if he can get a run stopping force in the middle of the defensive line, and if he can get the CB play he needs.

Maybe that CB play comes from Springs next year, or maybe we sign/draft somebody, I dunno. But with those three things, GW will have us back on top. We don't need ends and we don't need LBs; at first glance the stats tell you that the ends and LBs are having down years. But that's more due to the weakness at other positions spilling over and affecting their play. It's still a team sport, even the great Marcus Washington is going to have a down year when he doesn't have DTs keeping linemen and fullbacks away from him.

You don't think that drafting a MLB in the top ten will help us???? Marshal is not getting the tackles that he needs to. We need a big fast linebacker that can shed blocks and fill those gaps that the DT's create. You stop the run with your LB's filling the holes. Our run D is miserable, but other teams are not always picking up on that. The tampa game was a great illustration of our struggles.

[Citizens for 81]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

You don't think that drafting a MLB in the top ten will help us???? Marshal is not getting the tackles that he needs to. We need a big fast linebacker that can shed blocks and fill those gaps that the DT's create. You stop the run with your LB's filling the holes. Our run D is miserable, but other teams are not always picking up on that. The tampa game was a great illustration of our struggles.

There are no MLBs in the top 10 in this year's draft.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

You don't think that drafting a MLB in the top ten will help us???? Marshal is not getting the tackles that he needs to. We need a big fast linebacker that can shed blocks and fill those gaps that the DT's create. You stop the run with your LB's filling the holes. Our run D is miserable, but other teams are not always picking up on that. The tampa game was a great illustration of our struggles.

If Lemar Marshall is so bad, how come he had such a good year in 2005? Did he forget how to play football? Or is it maybe that last year Salave'a was healthy and stout against opposing linemen, and paired nicely with Griffin in keeping offensive linemen from beating the Skins up?

Salave'a has not been healthy this season and has not been the immovable object he was in '04 or '05. Golston has some nice quick little moves in pass rushing situations, but he's undersized and gets plowed on running plays.

Put in a big ass DT, and all of a sudden you'll be praising Lemar Marshall again next year. He'll flow to the ball more freely.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If Lemar Marshall is so bad, how come he had such a good year in 2005? Did he forget how to play football? Or is it maybe that last year Salave'a was healthy and stout against opposing linemen, and paired nicely with Griffin in keeping offensive linemen from beating the Skins up?

Salave'a has not been healthy this season and has not been the immovable object he was in '04 or '05. Golston has some nice quick little moves in pass rushing situations, but he's undersized and gets plowed on running plays.

Put in a big ass DT, and all of a sudden you'll be praising Lemar Marshall again next year. He'll flow to the ball more freely.

Very good point. In order for Marshall to be effective he must have strong DT's. Heck he's only 225 as a MLB. But still I would look for someone a little bigger on run downs and use Marshall in nickel situations. We really need a more impact player at MLB on run downs. I would use Marshall as Monte Colemen type of player.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Very good point. In order for Marshall to be effective he must have strong DT's. Heck he's only 225 as a MLB. But still I would look for someone a little bigger on run downs and use Marshall in nickel situations. We really need a more impact player at MLB on run downs. I would use Marshall as Monte Colemen type of player.

This may be off the wall, but I'd seriously consider moving Marcus to MLB. Play Rocky and LeMar on the outsides, sign Justin Smith as a DE, and trade down for multiple picks to draft a DT (Okam, Tyler?) and a CB (Bennett, Cason?)

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

This may be off the wall, but I'd seriously consider moving Marcus to MLB. Play Rocky and LeMar on the outsides, sign Justin Smith as a DE, and trade down for multiple picks to draft a DT (Okam, Tyler?) and a CB (Bennett, Cason?)

There's a LB shuffle that could happen. Sorta a waste of MW in the middle though isn't it?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

This may be off the wall, but I'd seriously consider moving Marcus to MLB. Play Rocky and LeMar on the outsides, sign Justin Smith as a DE, and trade down for multiple picks to draft a DT (Okam, Tyler?) and a CB (Bennett, Cason?)

It's not a bad idea but it's not going to happen. It would take a year to get everybody in harmony. But if lavar were still here, he'd would have made a great MLB.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If Lemar Marshall is so bad, how come he had such a good year in 2005? Did he forget how to play football? Or is it maybe that last year Salave'a was healthy and stout against opposing linemen, and paired nicely with Griffin in keeping offensive linemen from beating the Skins up?

Salave'a has not been healthy this season and has not been the immovable object he was in '04 or '05. Golston has some nice quick little moves in pass rushing situations, but he's undersized and gets plowed on running plays.

Put in a big ass DT, and all of a sudden you'll be praising Lemar Marshall again next year. He'll flow to the ball more freely.

What about drafting DT Alan Branch (6'6", 331 lbs) from Michigan?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Bill B

What about drafting DT Alan Branch (6'6", 331 lbs) from Michigan?

Branch wouldn't be bad at all.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Bill B

What about drafting DT Alan Branch (6'6", 331 lbs) from Michigan?

I'd be IN LOVE with that pick.

John Henderson prototype.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'd be IN LOVE with that pick.

John Henderson prototype.

Do we have a shot at getting this guy?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'd be IN LOVE with that pick.

John Henderson prototype.

Everytime I saw Mich play this year that guy was very disruptive. Always in the other teams backfield. Now that would be a very nice pick for us.