Not to get political, but...

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

All that said, the Dems certainly don't have an answer right now. The entire party is reactionary, and there hasn't been an original thought out of them since the middle of Clinton's second term. It's turning into the Hatfield-McCoys feud - everyone is so worked up over fighting the other side, they don't remember what the fight is about.

There is a TON to comment on with what you said, some inaccurate info...but I will only comment on the above...
I agree.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by jsarno

There is a TON to comment on with what you said, some inaccurate info...but I will only comment on the above...
I agree.

LOL - I'm sure it can be spin, but it's accurate.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

LOL - I'm sure it can be spin, but it's accurate.

The tax comment is grossly inaccurate.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by jsarno

The tax comment is grossly inaccurate.

OK, it's probably closer to the top 5%, and the "increase" on the lower 80% of the people is a net effect, rather than a direct increase in the tax percentage. Same effect, though - the rich get richer and the poor pay a disproportionate share of their income.
Connect the Dots, Folks: Bush Tax Cuts for Rich

I'd love to see a flat tax, but it will never happen unfortunately. The Dems want to tax the rich to death and the Republicans want to protect them at all costs. Neither solution makes sense.

[Redskin]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

OK, it's probably closer to the top 5%, and the "increase" on the lower 80% of the people is a net effect, rather than a direct increase in the tax percentage. Same effect, though - the rich get richer and the poor pay a disproportionate share of their income.
Connect the Dots, Folks: Bush Tax Cuts for Rich

I'd love to see a flat tax, but it will never happen unfortunately. The Dems want to tax the rich to death and the Republicans want to protect them at all costs. Neither solution makes sense.

Yea but a flat Tax will piss people off too, He has more money then me why am i paying the same ammount yayayaya.

And the country needs rich people to survive becuase they own and run businesses and if they go broke why we will be down shits creek my friend

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Redskin

Yea but a flat Tax will piss people off too, He has more money then me why am i paying the same ammount yayayaya.

And the country needs rich people to survive becuase they own and run businesses and if they go broke why we will be down shits creek my friend

I don't think anyone is saying tax the rich to death just tax them fairly. The question is what's fair. Flat tax certainly isn't the answer because the poor get hit hard. I think the current tax system is pretty good. Couple of things that bothers me about it is that there are lots of loop holes and ways for people to shelter their money from taxes. I don't think that is fair.

The other thing that bothers me is that the rich can take their after tax money invest it in the stock market, make a killing and not pay the same percentage in taxes as they would if the money was earned. That's totally fucked up. Yeah, the average Joe could do the same thing but you don't have to be a genius to realize the difference between the kind of money the average Joe can invest and 1+ million the rich guy has. And don't even get me started on the kind of treatment and breaks you get when you have that kind of money. You earn better on your money and brokers and managers constantly have their lips on your ass.

p.s. This country is where it is today because of the hard work of your average Joes and the Rich need the average Joes more so than the average Joe needs the rich. I don't now about you lot but I would be just as happy herding goats as much as working for a mega XYZ corporation. Life would go on.